Originally posted by golem370
One of my points was the durability of the Celestials even Eternity got knocked back by Adam but the Celestial stood point blank and was only covering his face from the blast. Galactus during HOTU seemed suprised that the Celestials were being comsumed at the end.
Exactly. Despite showings like this and the fact that Kubik himself admitted that Celestials are many orders of power ABOVE Cube Beings, Celestials don't have the "feats" that Cube Beings do.
Feats mean little unless they going into a Respect Thread.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
@zopzopAnd what is the average of Kubiks lone demostration of power?
Yeah he beat half a cube, but that half a cube created its own universe...and Kubik warped it.
It is what it is; based on available data, Kubik gets quite far in this gauntlet...
Yeah and two skyfathers rocked the entire multiverse and this was before Odin regained his full power (he was amnesiac).
Two Mjolnirs rocked the universe and the impact/force was comparable to the Big Bang.
Thor and three of his fellow Hammer Wielders held up the entire MULTIVERSE with their Godblast.
Satannish/Mephisto have done that "reality will be destroyed" fight on two occasions.
Mephiso/Galactus fight was wrecking 616 reality.
Shuma Gorath/Arioch Strange fight was wrecking havoc through out the various dimensions.
It's meaningless.
Kubik only fought half a cube being and won.
Originally posted by zopzop
Yeah and two skyfathers rocked the entire multiverse and this was before Odin regained his full power (he was amnesiac).Two Mjolnirs rocked the universe and the impact/force was comparable to the Big Bang.
Thor and three of his fellow Hammer Wielders held up the entire MULTIVERSE with their Godblast.
Satannish/Mephisto have done that "reality will be destroyed" fight on two occasions.
Mephiso/Galactus fight was wrecking 616 reality.
Shuma Gorath/Arioch Strange fight was wrecking havoc through out the various dimensions.
It's meaningless.
Kubik only fought half a cube being and won.
Most of the characters you mentioned have low feats that counter balance those really high ones; those characters are not typically as powerful as those high end feats suggest...
Kubik is the exception here...
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Most of the characters you mentioned have low feats that counter balance those really high ones; those characters are not typically as powerful as those high end feats suggest...Kubik is the exception here...
The point is, feats are meaningless, since even High Heralds have universe rocking feats. It's fights that count. Aside from beating half a Cube Being, what has Kubik done? Nothing.
We KNOW he's weaker than a Celestial because he's said so on panel (more than once) and was in fear of his life while undergoing judgement by one.
That statement doesnt mean much...
Thor just "admitted" he couldnt beat the Hulk, then proceeded to beat him via BFR...knocked him into space to be precise.
And yeah, we need more showings from Kubik, but based on its win against half a cube (especially considering the consistently high on panel feats that half-cube has), Kubik is very powerful and should do very well in this gauntlet...
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
That statement doesnt mean much...
By itself, you'd have a point. But when person making it is later shown on panel in FEAR OF HIS CONTINUED EXISTENCE, then it means a lot.
Thor just "admitted" he couldnt beat the Hulk, then proceeded to beat him via BFR...knocked him into space to be precise.
But BFR is just that, BFR.
And yeah, we need more showings from Kubik, but based on its win against half a cube (especially considering the consistently high on panel feats that half-cube has), Kubik is very powerful and should do very well in this gauntlet...
Again, feats are meaningless in a vs fight. Eternity has NO worthwhile feats to speak of, but who would win in a fight : Eternity or Thor? If you say Eternity, why? He has zero feats worth mentioning and low showing after low showing after low showing.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Undoubtably disrupt his physical form, but I really dont expect Dormmy to just stand there...let Thor go through the motions of powering it up...then let Thor hit him with it.Dormmy coudl just teleport behind him and own him to death...
You are right again, but the point is Thor, if given the opportunity, can wreck havoc on Dormammu.
Even in that Dormammu/Eternity fight, Eternity's form was being wrecked too with planets and suns exploding. Dr. Strange thought they both died or something.
See my point? Eternity has ZERO feats and one iffy fight to his credit. Why would people choose him over Thor in a versus fight? I mean Thor has the better feats no? And you admitted Thor's "Exitar level" Godblast would do damage to Dormammu and Thor is only a high herald.