Originally posted by JakeTheBank
You don't honestly believe it was a Godblast, do you, Srank?Rhetorical, btw.
It was lightning/thunder. Not anywhere close to being a Godblast.
Thor channel's his energy into Mjolnir for an energy blast. God Blast.
I guess Thor must have hit Daken with a lightening bolt after he used his God Blastm because you can CLEARLY see in the Dark Wolverine perspective that it isn't a lightening bolt, it's very plainly a wave of orange energy. 😎
Originally posted by srankmissingninOrange energy blast
Thor channel's his energy into Mjolnir for an energy blast. God Blast.I guess Thor must have hit Daken with a lightening bolt after he used his God Blastm because you can CLEARLY see in the Dark Wolverine perspective that it isn't a lightening bolt, it's very plainly a wave of orange energy. 😎
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Thor channel's his energy into Mjolnir for an energy blast. God Blast.I guess Thor must have hit Daken with a lightening bolt after he used his God Blastm because you can CLEARLY see in the Dark Wolverine perspective that it isn't a lightening bolt, it's very plainly a wave of orange energy. 😎
My god.
Thor can and has fired generic energy blasts from Mjolnir many times before. And they don't qualify as "Godblasts". Hell, even claiming it was the Anti-Force is a tad more acceptable an explanation than the Godblast.
Wave of orange energy =/= Godblast.
Unless you think Daken can outright survive a Godblast from Thor?
Which is, again, rhetorical.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
My god.Thor can and has fired generic energy blasts from Mjolnir many times before. And they don't qualify as "Godblasts". Hell, even claiming it was the Anti-Force is a tad more acceptable an explanation than the Godblast.
Wave of orange energy =/= Godblast.
Unless you think Daken can outright survive a Godblast from Thor?
Which is, again, rhetorical.
The spread is far to large for it to be one of Thor's "generic energy blasts." It was practically a tidal wave of energy, not a thin beam. It could have been the Anti-force blast, because it has depicted similarly when Thor used it on the Thanos clone.
Originally posted by srankmissingninSit yo 5 dollar ass down before I make change.
The spread is far to large for it to be one of Thor's "generic energy blasts." It was practically a tidal wave of energy, not a thin beam. It could have been the Anti-force blast, because it has depicted similarly when Thor used it on the Thanos clone.
Most likely it wasn't the God Blast. But as for the battle at hand. I believe steve has the skill to take to Daken physically. It will be a hard fought battle for Steve to win for sure...
But seeing Cap putting down a Kree warrior. I have to believe he can hurt Daken in spite of the HF. The pain is still felt. http://img247.imageshack.us/my.php?image=capownskreelg4.jpg
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He won't be able to resist pheromone manipulation. It's different from mind control. Maybe if Steve knew about Daken's power and prepared...We would have to use Daken with low speed HF or/and not using pheromones if we wanted Captain to win.
Cap has fought opponents with fast HF before. And HF doesn't take away the pain. I believe that the Kree have a HF with superhuman stats? I could be wrong. But Cap is very strong willed. So with the pheromones, Stillman. How do you see Daken using it against Cap? If Cap lands his signature leaning punch or a strong jab to the throat with his shield. It will stop Daken in his tracks long enough for Steve to add more punishment.
Originally posted by Marvelknight
Cap has fought opponents with fast HF before. And HF doesn't take away the pain. I believe that the Kree have a HF with superhuman stats? I could be wrong. But Cap is very strong willed. So with the pheromones, Stillman. How do you see Daken using it against Cap? If Cap lands his signature leaning punch or a strong jab to the throat with his shield. It will stop Daken in his tracks long enough for Steve to add more punishment.
You're right of course, HF doesn't take away the pain. But Daken is used to it. Just like X-23 or even Wolverine himself. His pain tolerance is extraordinary. If you don't like this explanation, then there's always the one made by Warren Ellis... that Wolverine-type hf "comes with some pain reduction".
I'm not denying that Captain has a strong willpower. But so does Wolverine. And Daken's pheromones worked on him just fine. You could possibly argue that after Harada's (re)training he could resist them... but I'd call that "prep". Not applicable here. And we don't know if Daken even tried to use that power then anyway.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You're right of course, HF doesn't take away the pain. But Daken is used to it. Just like X-23 or even Wolverine himself. His pain tolerance is extraordinary. If you don't like this explanation, then there's always the one made by Warren Ellis... that Wolverine-type hf "comes with some pain reduction".I'm not denying that Captain has a strong willpower. But so does Wolverine. And Daken's pheromones worked on him just fine. You could possibly argue that after Harada's (re)training he could resist them... but I'd call that "prep". Not applicable here. And we don't know if Daken even tried to use that power then anyway.
That fight happened in Wolverine Origins right?
I've seen him toy with Moonstone and Bullseye with this power. So I'm thinking mid fight, Cap will somehow be fooled to stop fighting or become attracted to Daken (which would besick). I need to better understand the nature of this power.
Originally posted by Marvelknight
That fight happened in Wolverine Origins right?I've seen him toy with Moonstone and Bullseye with this power. So I'm thinking mid fight, Cap will somehow be fooled to stop fighting or become attracted to Daken (which would besick). I need to better understand the nature of this power.
Yes. "Seven the hard way", end of the arc I think.
I believe Moonstone was just fascinated with Daken. He didn't toy with her, he actually revealed his true nature and repelled her, iirc. He used it on Lester though... at least in one instance when he made him overly agressive or something.
With his pheromone power Daken can make the enemy feel whatever he wants him to. Vision distortion, false sense of security, paranoia, laugh attack, etc. Even mid-combat.
He often doesn't take fights seriously, because he likes to pretend to lose and manipulate people. Like in the fight with Gambit, when he sheathed his claws.
