Duke vs. Link

Started by Burning thought4 pages

Originally posted by BloodRain
Do me a favour, stop being annoying, kay? Its 0.2 to 0.1. Judging from his page and status, he isnt a pro. Thin air if you didn't read the post. Confirmed peak reactions is 0.1, confirmed arm movement speed is 0.2[takes that long to throw a punch] and 0.1 is to pull a trigger. How does your 'hands and feet' point relate in any way to 'hands and hands'? Arm movement is arm movement. His dexterity will match his speed and reactions.

He thinks and acts like Link. Is Link retarded? No. 2xpeak human running is 20m/s movement speed. PBoots.

Besides the flashy movements its still instantaneous. Forming the orb, 0.2s. Taking it in to form the shield, 0.1. Its only if you count the flashy things will it be longer. The gameplay is the only way to say by how much, if not it can still take Ganon's strength so it doesn't really matter. So the shields up and he's impervious to Duke.

Says the guy who seems to "try" and be annoying. Your source covers what I said, that its simply stimulation, its not an actual movement or action, so it takes 0.2 just for Link to stimulate the reaction, you can then add how long it takes for him to do the action, so another second or so to fire.

Can you prove this? Clearly he does not think and act like Link since Link would not try to kill himself.

"flashy thingd"? you cant just cut out part of what Link does in hopes of covering his sloth darling. Thought so, so its pretty useless, mechanics are the only thing to gauge it. As I said, if Duke sits there, waiting, 0.2+ seconds for Link to stimulate a response, then he makes a decision, then the activation of the spell so all in all about 3.5s before Narys love is actiaved, its not going to take that long for Duke to "pull trigger".

So this has just boiled down to being another one-sided BT thread? Did the rest of the Duke supporters I saw in the Duke vs Chris and Wesker threads like Kazenji just cower out or somethin'? I'm disappoint.

Darkstorm added some insight.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
So this has just boiled down to being another one-sided BT thread? Did the rest of the Duke supporters I saw in the Duke vs Chris and Wesker threads like Kazenji just cower out or somethin'? I'm disappoint.

What the frig are you on about??

i've just seen this thread right now 7.10 PM

sorry if i don't live in the America.

Dukes ultimate weapon:

The holoduke.

Aggro's all enemies, letting Duke pick his shots. 😄

Link Cocklashes Duke's balls of with sword of highrule and screws Zelda afters with a cigar stolen form the former king.

He can't.

Duke has balls of steel. 😎

Originally posted by Burning thought
Darkstorm added some insight.

Yeah, that's true.

Originally posted by Kazenji
What the frig are you on about??

i've just seen this thread right now 7.10 PM

sorry if i don't live in the America.


Well I noticed you were much quicker to post in the Duke vs Chris and Wesker threads, whereas here you just posted a couple days after this thread was made, so I don't think where you live necessarily played a factor in that. 😬 Also, I was mainly just being an ass there to encourage more activity in the thread 😛, so no hard feelings or anything personal. lol

Originally posted by cdtm
Dukes ultimate weapon:

The holoduke.

Aggro's all enemies, letting Duke pick his shots. 😄


BUTBUT- THE TRIFORCE OF COURAGE IS THE MOST ULTIMATE WEAPON OF ALL! Capable of owning even the pre-retcon Beyonder!

Duke is more than pre-retcon Beyonder.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
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so I don't think where you live necessarily played a factor in that. 😬

Personally it does

besides i was'nt near a computer on Wednesday and top of that i rarely checked this part of the forums.....just gets same old, same old with the vs's

as for this fight the Duke takes the win

lol at killermover as expected the same kind of posts from him.

Killermover is a bigger Duke Nukem fan than all of us, what did you expect?

😆 😆

Somebody who spends that much time focused on a character has to be in love with him.

Re: Duke vs. Link

Originally posted by Nemesis X
Duke does not like hearing Link playing his ocarina. "What the hell kind of harmonistic garbage am I hearing? What is with this world and it's lack of kick ass music? Hey you goldilocks, stop blowing in that or so help me I'll destroy your toy like the E ratings did your sex life.....-still hears Link playing-...Okay you asked for it."

There are things a stereotypical man can do in a land filled with magical wonders. He can shoot annoying fairies that won't shut up and even see if a certain princess will take her dress off if he hands her a twenty but if he goes as far as to swipe a musical instrument from a warrior elf's hand and steps on it repeatedly, he's asking for trouble.

For the heck of it, they're both composite from all the games they've been in (minus the crossovers) and they have all their weapons. Link is restricted from using any magical gauntlets and Duke is prohibited from using his shrink ray.

Two of these repetitively overrated iconic schmucks will be fighting in the center of Clock Town.

Will Link hail to the King or will the Duke get his just desserts for being a harsh critic to flute players everywhere?

Judging by the opening post, Duke begins the fight having stolen Link's Ocarina and stomped on it repeatedly, while boasting.

This puts him within sword range immediately.

Mortal Draw, guys.

~ Duke's aura of badassery smites Link.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Duke is more than pre-retcon Beyonder.

Pre-retcon Beyonder? U SHUR?

Beyond the Presence is where I'd put him vin

Originally posted by The Scenario
Judging by the opening post, Duke begins the fight having stolen Link's Ocarina and stomped on it repeatedly, while boasting.

This puts him within sword range immediately.

Mortal Draw, guys.


You've put Duke within arm's reach of composite Link, an apparently angry composite Link whose just had a very valuable possession of his destroyed.

Duke's life expectancy isn't very high.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Somebody who spends that much time focused on a character has to be in love with him.

True that. mmm

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
You've put Duke within arm's reach of composite Link, an apparently angry composite Link whose just had a very valuable possession of his destroyed.

Duke's life expectancy isn't very high.


Was thinking that too, but I hope the Duke side can try and disprove that so this can be dragged out a little longer like Nidoking vs Tyranitar. dur

Originally posted by Burning thought
Says the guy who seems to "try" and be annoying. Your source covers what I said, that its simply stimulation, its not an actual movement or action, so it takes 0.2 just for Link to stimulate the reaction, you can then add how long it takes for him to do the action, so another second or so to fire.

Can you prove this? Clearly he does not think and act like Link since Link would not try to kill himself.

"flashy thingd"? you cant just cut out part of what Link does in hopes of covering his sloth darling. Thought so, so its pretty useless, mechanics are the only thing to gauge it. As I said, if Duke sits there, waiting, 0.2+ seconds for Link to stimulate a response, then he makes a decision, then the activation of the spell so all in all about 3.5s before Narys love is actiaved, its not going to take that long for Duke to "pull trigger".

3secondmemoryftw.

Yeah, 0.2/0.1 is the time it takes from -visible action- to -ready to act-. A peak human can do this all in 0.1 second, get the arrow, notch it then aim and release. Link's reactions make the reaction and aim stages 15x faster, his speed makes the arrow grabbing and notching 10x faster. It takes a total of 0.2 seconds from thinking about using the bow to the arrow hitting Duke. Twice as fast as a peak humans 0.4 second gun speed. Duke's peak human speed can't compete with Link's superhuman speed, any speed or reaction he has Link can do in a tenth of the time.

There's no reason to suggest he doesn't think as Link does. Further note, preemptive blocks will never work. Sole exception being if you're curled in a ball doing a constant block to you head and someone kicks at it. In a fight? No. You only block when you know the opponent is about to strike.

I can when these movements have nothing to do with activating. Its the same deal with time looking like it stops when using it. Excessive movements that aren't to do with the actual ability.

If it can block anything with the exception of Ganon its legit telling us how much strength is needed to break it, GJ. Now we just need Duke to have a gigajoule level weapon on hand.. Seriously, where are you getting 0.2+ for him to react from? Thats for people with bad reactions. You do know that 0.2 is 'average human' reactions, right? Peak human is 0.1. Link has superhuman reactions, so dont be giving him a slow mans mind. On the other hand Duke's a mere peak human at best. Dodge, shield, NL, kill him before he shoots. Many an option.

Originally posted by BloodRain
3secondmemoryftw.

Yeah, 0.2/0.1 is the time it takes from -visible action- to -ready to act-. A peak human can do this all in 0.1 second, get the arrow, notch it then aim and release. Link's reactions make the reaction and aim stages 15x faster, his speed makes the arrow grabbing and notching 10x faster. It takes a total of 0.2 seconds from thinking about using the bow to the arrow hitting Duke. Twice as fast as a peak humans 0.4 second gun speed. Duke's peak human speed can't compete with Link's superhuman speed, any speed or reaction he has Link can do in a tenth of the time.

There's no reason to suggest he doesn't think as Link does. Further note, preemptive blocks will never work. Sole exception being if you're curled in a ball doing a constant block to you head and someone kicks at it. In a fight? No. You only block when you know the opponent is about to strike.

I can when these movements have nothing to do with activating. Its the same deal with time looking like it stops when using it. Excessive movements that aren't to do with the actual ability.

If it can block anything with the exception of Ganon its legit telling us how much strength is needed to break it, GJ. Now we just need Duke to have a gigajoule level weapon on hand.. Seriously, where are you getting 0.2+ for him to react from? Thats for people with bad reactions. You do know that 0.2 is 'average human' reactions, right? Peak human is 0.1. Link has superhuman reactions, so dont be giving him a slow mans mind. On the other hand Duke's a mere peak human at best. Dodge, shield, NL, kill him before he shoots. Many an option.

Stimulation for an action, the actual action as shown by the archery vid can take even decent archers to fire slowly. What the hell, show me a peak human reacting, loading an arrow and fireing it in 0.1 seconds....you wont find any. Wrong, Links speed? links not even fast, if your trying to use the boots then you have to prove his hands and reactions are also increased in speed. The 0.4 is from holster shooting, duke has no holster and his guns are in his hands, all he has to do is pull a trigger, less than a second. Only links got a lot more actions and far more to think about than duke.

Some sort of circular logic your trying here? "no reason to suggest he doesnt", why? technically hes not link and if he does think, then both of them know eachothers moves, a major advantage to both. Erm, yes they will, if you hold up your shield (tactic used by players in the game) you can block his strikes.

They clearly are otherwise why would he do it? your not making any sense, he takes out som sort of bottle/glowing object, does a gesture and the spell is slowly cast, completly useless.

Not reall,y your just using gameplay mechanics. Thats good reaction actually, 0.2+ is stimulation (which should take 0.2 by itself) AND an action which is damn incredible, your misunderstanding how reaction and stimulation to a reaction works, humans percieve the world constantly, knowing something is going to happen, or watching something happening like in this example of Link vs Dark Link is completly different to reacting on the fly to something you canont expect, like a spray of bullets from Duke.

Ok, dodge fails since his not a bullet timer, dies in a hail of rounds OR a missle which disintegrates him. Shield gets shot into shrapnel and kills link, NL is useless as its too slow, him reaching for the spell alone will kill him.....

You seem to have a fan fiction of Link doing all this in less than a fraction of a second when even one of these actions would take a second or so at least.

Well, again, in the opening post Duke is close enough to have taken Link's ocarina and step on it. He's most likely either not holding a gun yet or is holding it one handed. Link can pull a mortal draw in the time it would take Duke to either pull a gun or get far enough away that he won't be included in any blast radii.