Originally posted by -Pr-
I'm talking about DOS, specifically. It's been a while since i read it, though.
And he had a golden opportunity to toss him into orbit, but decided to toss him at that Cadimus petrified forest city instead.
Which makes it PIS. Even Byrne era Superman should have been strong enough to toss him into space with as much momentum as he picked up.
Re: Which versions of superman can defeat current hulk
Originally posted by Omega visors
well i think most of us agree that current hulk is >>> regular sups but what versions of superman can take on him?
This is the same Hulk that was locked in an endless battle with Red She Hulk, right?
Is Red She Hulk >>> Superman, too?
^ Power-wise, yes. She was wished into being Hulk's equal after all.
Originally posted by cdtmI was under the impression that wasn't by Superman's design but rather, a result of Doomsday thwarting his efforts.
And he had a golden opportunity to toss him into orbit, but decided to toss him at that Cadimus petrified forest city instead.Which makes it PIS. Even Byrne era Superman should have been strong enough to toss him into space with as much momentum as he picked up.
It has been a really long time since I read the entire fight myself.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I was under the impression that wasn't by Superman's design but rather, a result of Doomsday thwarting his efforts.It has been a really long time since I read the entire fight myself.
I have the trade. Supes had him by the end of a leg, more or less at the ankle, with Doomsday facing outwards with his stomach towards the floor. He couldn't reach Supes, probably couldn't even turn to see him, and didn't really do anything to stop his efforts.
Supes did make an attempt to fly him into orbit later, but Doomsday fought out of it and kicked him at the ground.
Originally posted by carver9
Superman Prime and above. Anything below gets there wind pipe crushed.
And how's he going to catch him to crush his windpipe?
Since you went with CBR arguments to claim Hulk thunderclaps for a win every time against Daken, you're not going to pull an about face and argue Superman doesn't use his speed every time to avoid getting hurt, and mount an offense, are you?
Off topic, but talking about Doomsday in the petrified forest city has me thinking..
Superman kept hitting Doomsday, and his fists eventually started to hurt. When he finally kills Doomsday, it's implied Supes has been holding back the entire time leading up to the end, but how much could he really have been holding back if he was hitting DD so hard, he was hurting himself..?
Originally posted by cdtm
And how's he going to catch him to crush his windpipe?Since you went with CBR arguments to claim Hulk thunderclaps for a win every time against Daken, you're not going to pull an about face and argue Superman doesn't use his speed every time to avoid getting hurt, and mount an offense, are you?
I don't believe in CBR style of fighting...I go by on panel showings. I don't mentally create a character that doesn't exist. I don't say Hulk would come into a fight moving at the same type of super speed he used to blitz both Wonderman and Ironman before they could react because on panel, its rare to find Hulk fighting like that.
I don't say Savage Hulk goes around Thunder Clapping in all of his battles, thunder Clapping hard enough that he destroys the solar system they are fighting in (classic Savage destroyed a dimension twice on panel). It's stupid imo and its out of character. I was being sarcastic with you that day and I would never debate in that fashion.
Weren't you the one that gave Surfer 10/10 against Superman?
Anyways, nothing Superman Prime or below is stopping Hulk.
Originally posted by carver9
When have I ever said Gladiator or Sentry win via speed blitz? It's a stupid argument imo if the character rarely if ever win in that fashion. I don't think you understood my post.
i do understand your post carver. and im always on this board reading threads, and quite often i see you cherry pick and embellish comic book feats ...your not as bad as you use to be. but u still do it when it involves your big 3
hulk
glads
and logan
Originally posted by Sin I AM
i do understand your post carver. and im always on this board reading threads, and quite often i see you cherry pick and embellish comic book feats ...your not as bad as you use to be. but u still do it when it involves your big 3hulk
glads
and logan
My point is, I never debate with them fighting out of character.