Originally posted by Utrigita
That Professor Xavier twice was incapable of in any way just making his way through Galactus defenses, with Galactus not even actively fighting said intrusion. In the Skrull incident, Xavier had to ask Galactus to lower his personal defenses, in secret wars Magneto and Xavier was getting absolutely nowhere in trying to learn Galactus true intention. Now I know that Galactus doesn't have the abundance of telepathic feats that the teams does, but the fact alone that Xavier is portrayed as a telepathic bug next to Galactus speaks volume imo. Then you take into account the rest of the team, which from my point of view, is around or above Xavier so... And again we can assume (based on the battle so far) that they are equals.
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This team has no chance against Odin in a telepathic battle...
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
They can try. Imo, Odin takes it, and it's not really close.It took Thanos, Dr. Strange, the Silver Surfer, Drax, Adam Warlock, Moondragon, and Maxam working together to just barely break free of the Madness Thor entrapped them in. Later, Odin was going toe to toe with Thor on the mental plane -Adam Warlock stated the battle defied their mortal comprehension- and he could have taken Thor down but feared injuring him.
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Why? Odin wasn't gaining any ground mentally but neither was Galactus, it was going back and forth. Pretty much the definition of a stalemate.
At one point Galactus elicited more of a response from Odin but it's because he touched a nerve with the whole "eating the dead" bit related to the Serpent more than anything.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusHad Odin elicited more of a response from Galan and Galactus lose his temper and charge Odin with all his bluster, I'd doubt that it would be interpreted as a stalemate to you.
Why? Odin wasn't gaining any ground mentally but neither was Galactus, it was going back and forth. Pretty much the definition of a stalemate.At one point Galactus elicited more of a response from Odin but it's because he touched a nerve with the whole "eating the dead" bit related to the Serpent more than anything.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Had Odin elicited more of a response from Galan and Galactus lose his temper and charge Odin with all his bluster, I'd doubt that it would be interpreted as a stalemate to you.
Let's cut to the chase, where are you going with this, that Galactus was winning? I'm sorry but this doesn't indicate that Galactus had the upper hand:
http://www.comicbookresources.com/assets/images/preview/6e3e4eci9601/prv9601_pg6.jpg
As far as I can tell, Odin got frustrated with the lack of progress and opted for the more direct approach. Which isn't exactly out of the blue with Fraction's portrayal. He's All Father is hot headed.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusIt's obvious what I said. I think it's really obvious.
Let's cut to the chase, where are you going with this, that Galactus was winning? I'm sorry but this doesn't indicate that Galactus had the upper hand:
http://www.comicbookresources.com/assets/images/preview/6e3e4eci9601/prv9601_pg6.jpgAs far as I can tell, Odin got frustrated with the lack of progress and opted for the more direct approach. Which isn't exactly out of the blue with Fraction's portrayal.
And let's not pretend w
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusNo discussion needed. Oh yea, one other thing: It think it's really really really obvious that if Silver Surfer torpedoed Odin's head during the tp battle, and Odin still elicited more of a reaction from Galactus... and Galactus decided to disengage the tp and bullrush Odin, you wouldn't be characterizing it as a stalemate. At all.
So you're not intending to have an actual discussion. I'm not going to waste my time with you discussing some what if scenario where the tables are turned.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
No discussion needed.
Alright then.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Oh yea, one other thing: It think it's really really really obvious that if Silver Surfer torpedoed Odin's head during the tp battle, and Odin still elicited more of a reaction from Galactus... and Galactus decided to disengage the tp and bullrush Odin, you wouldn't be characterizing it as a stalemate. At all.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
At one point Galactus elicited more of a response from Odin but it's because he touched a nerve with the whole "eating the dead" bit related to the Serpent more than anything.I'm not going to waste my time with you discussing some what if scenario where the tables are turned.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ 👆Nice to see Odin can't beat Galactus in a telepathy battle even when Thor is physically assaulting the big G, and he's expending his own energies to hold off a force of Asgardians (an expenditure not required by Odin).
Nice. Not that surprising though.
Are you implying that a single hit from Thor should have a noticeable impact on Galactus' performance?
Oh poor Galan, not long after feeding he had to expend some energy to hold off about 50 regular Asgardans. It's not as if a large chunk of the Odin Force flows through the entire Asgardian race and home dimension or anything.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ kindaOdin w/prep + Thor + a dozen Asgardians =
still can't win a tp battlestalemate.Yuppers.
With prep? Hahaha, I can't even pretend to take this seriously.
If Galactus was superior to Odin mentally, Odin wouldn't have been able to intrude his mind, then hold his own in a direct battle. And this was before Thor struck Galactus. If you're really falling back on Galactus summoning a few dozen Cosmic Demons, then you must really be desperate and ultimately, that line of thinking wouldn't end well for you. Odin has a much larger chunk of power invested in other ventures.
It's all right there on the pages, there's no need to waste my time.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusI've already seen Xavier and Thanos and Moondragon do that. In case you forgot. But you're right, slowly losing a telepathic battle against Galactus is quite a feat.
With prep? Hahaha, I can't even pretend to take this seriously.If Galactus was superior to Odin mentally, Odin wouldn't have been able to intrude his mind, then hold his own in a direct battle And this was before Thor struck Galactus. If you're really falling back on Galactus summoning a few dozen Cosmic Demons, then you must really be desperate and ultimately, the argument wouldn't end well for you.
I'm sure in a What If?, while Odin is summoning some Odinpower warriors, Surfer will slam Odin in the head, Galactus will still nevertheless be the one flustered, and Galactus will be the one to disengage the tp...
... and we'll all be like, "Oh yea... s'like a stalemate, yknow? Like... they're totally even dontcha know."
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I've already seen Xavier and Thanos and Moondragon do that. In case you forgot. But you're right, slowly losing a telepathic battle against Galactus is quite a feat.
Losing? What the hell are you
Silly me, I was going to attempt to reason with you. Let's just go back and forth, objectively analyzing the situation is clearly too painful for you.
You're right, only stalemating Galactus is beneath Odin. He's probably weakened. He hasn't entered the Odin Sleep since before his death where he was noticeably drained.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I'm sure in a What If?, while Odin is summoning some Odinpower warriors, Surfer will slam Odin in the head, Galactus will still nevertheless be the one flustered, and Galactus will be the one to disengage the tp...... and we'll all be like, "Oh yea... s'like a stalemate, yknow? Like... they're totally even dontcha know."
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'm not going to waste my time with you discussing some what if scenario where the tables are turned.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusOne way of being objective is to look at it from both sides. Which you're not eager to do.Losing? What the hell are youSilly me, I was going to attempt to reason with you. Let's just go back and forth, objectively analyzing the situation is clearly too painful for you.
You're right, only stalemating Galactus is beneath Odin. He's probably weakened. He hasn't entered the Odin Sleep since before his death where he was noticeably drained.
Oh, no wait. You do want to do that. I'm just distracted with all of the deflections from my pointed observations of the actual fight. Silly me. I should concentrate more.
