Originally posted by vansonbee
Wolverine did pretty well against Hulk, so that should make him a high herald at the least, so thats total spite toward Ares.
Nah, he just does really well vs bricks. It's the insane healing factor, unbreakable bones, and super sharp claws. He did better than any X-man vs WWH.
Against Ares, a guy that's nowhere near as strong as WWH and doesn't have a healing factor in that league, Wolverine can do serious damage if he connects once or two in a vital area.
Originally posted by zopzopIt was obvious sarcasm btw.
Nah, he just does really well vs bricks. It's the insane healing factor, unbreakable bones, and super sharp claws. He did better than any X-man vs WWH.Against Ares, a guy that's nowhere near as strong as WWH and doesn't have a healing factor in that league, Wolverine can do serious damage if he connects once or two in a vital area.
Ares is indeed half of what Hulk is, but there no need to be uber strong as Hulk to replicate the boxing feat, that he did to Wolverine.
Colossus can beat Ares. I remember everything up to his death in Siege. I remember post-WWH he got demolished by Hercules. Back then I remember thinking to myself featwise he's closer to Class 70 than Class 100. This forum runs on feats not hyperbole.
Fraction tried to make him scarier but even than it came across as a failure like all his writing.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t505315.html
And been done.
Originally posted by vansonbeeYou have scans of the Venom/Colossus fight? I thought Colossus kayoed him with a brick and then hitched a ride from Iceman.
Wolverine ain't a break, why is even compared to Colossus in a match against Ares.lol@Rage, that was true, that Venom was fighting evenly with Colossus..
The same Venom that got butt rape by Namor..
Originally posted by ExodusCloakI recall Ares getting one-shotted by WWHulk. Colossus atleast took a few hits and got some respect from the Hulk.
Colossus can beat Ares. I remember everything up to his death in Siege. I remember post-WWH he got demolished by Hercules. Back then I remember thinking to myself featwise he's closer to Class 70 than Class 100. This forum runs on feats not hyperbole.Fraction tried to make him scarier but even than it came across as a failure like all his writing.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t505315.html
And been done.
Originally posted by zopzopAres has no vital areas , the guy had his brain blown out of his head and his spinal cord ripped out and his heart crushed and was still alive and fighting
Nah, he just does really well vs bricks. It's the insane healing factor, unbreakable bones, and super sharp claws. He did better than any X-man vs WWH.Against Ares, a guy that's nowhere near as strong as WWH and doesn't have a healing factor in that league, Wolverine can do serious damage if he connects once or two in a vital area.
Originally posted by juggernaut74Ares had his up and down moments.
You have scans of the Venom/Colossus fight? I thought Colossus kayoed him with a brick and then hitched a ride from Iceman. I recall Ares getting one-shotted by WWHulk. Colossus atleast took a few hits and got some respect from the Hulk.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Colossus can beat Ares. I remember everything up to his death in Siege. I remember post-WWH he got demolished by Hercules. Back then I remember thinking to myself featwise he's closer to Class 70 than Class 100. This forum runs on feats not hyperbole.Fraction tried to make him scarier but even than it came across as a failure like all his writing.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t505315.html
And been done.
Not really. How fast is Peter? Ares has good reflexes, speed, and agility. Way better than Peter i'd wager. Which fight did he fet demolished by herc? He fought evenly with herc on that helicarrier. Ares takes it to Colossus. He does even need to be at class 100. The is a better fighter than Colossus, he ain't just going to slug it out with Colossus.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Not really. How fast is Peter? Ares has good reflexes, speed, and agility. Way better than Peter i'd wager. Which fight did he fet demolished by herc? He fought evenly with herc on that helicarrier. Ares takes it to Colossus. He does even need to be at class 100. The is a better fighter than Colossus, he ain't just going to slug it out with Colossus.
Colossus has all those in a abundance as well. And I haven't seen anything from Ares that would suggest that his speed or agility is greater then Colossus's. And in all honesty I would wager that Colossus has better agility and speed feats over his 40 years of existing.
When he dipped his bullets in hydra blood and Amadeous hacked into S.H.I.E.L.D.S. computers. He was no match for Hercules's strength.
I would love to see Ares written better but as I stated two years ago for someone who is supposed to be the God of War and is meant to be an expert in tactics he has consistently been written as a hot-head who rushes into things.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
So far Pak and Bendis have written Ares like a blithering ass who just bull rushes into fights. I hope Fraction changes that but as far as tactics go he's mostly been shown as nothing but a hot headed moron. Which shouldn't be for the God of War (Granted he's not a real God but still).And his strength fluctuates greatly.
I wrote this before the Utopia crossover....I haven't seen a reason to change my stance.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
.Colossus has all those in a abundance as well. And I haven't seen anything from Ares that would suggest that his speed or agility is greater then Colossus's. And in all honesty I would wager that Colossus has better agility and speed feats over his 40 years of existing.
When he dipped his bullets in hydra blood and Amadeous hacked into S.H.I.E.L.D.S. computers. He was no match for Hercules's strength.
I would love to see Ares written better but as I stated two years ago for someone who is supposed to be the God of War and is meant to be an expert in tactics he has consistently been written as a hot-head who rushes into things.
I wrote this before the Utopia crossover....I haven't seen a reason to change my stance.
Go read Ares' mini. He goes through Hades' hordes, killing a demon the instant his horse was crushed. He shoots out a cops finger on the draw in the first issue. Hercules with Hydra's blood stomped wonderman in a few panels. Ares actually lasted longer than WM. As for skills, Ares got Colossus beat in that department too. Took down Phobos and could've snacked his neck had he wanted. Put A-bomb on his butt after A-bomb got the upperhand for a moment.