Originally posted by jaden101I remember when they showed him at the end vaguely since it's been so long. I personally liked it showing his true older form. I just need to find it to rewatch it.
Linoge is a highly underrated bad guy...Very imposing and creepy although I thought it wasn't necessary to show him as an old man...That made him seem a lot less intimidating.Born in lust, turn to dust. Born in sin, come oooonnn in.
Pennywise: while not the greatest in the novel Tim Curry brings her to a new level and she truly becomes the stuff of your nightmares.
Jack Torrance: The only reason he is not first is because it's arguable that he is not a villian.
Warden Norton: Great villian from an even better movie.
Randal Flagg: While only a hollow shell of what he is in the novels, Flagg is still a frightening menace.
Andre Linoge: Frigtening and creepy... Need I say more.
Originally posted by ares834Since when was Pennywise considered a she ?
Pennywise: while not the greatest in the novel Tim Curry brings her to a new level and she truly becomes the stuff of your nightmares.
Jack Torrance: The only reason he is not first is because it's arguable that he is not a villian.
Warden Norton: Great villian from an even better movie.
Randal Flagg: While only a hollow shell of what he is in the novels, Flagg is still a frightening menace.
Andre Linoge: Frigtening and creepy... Need I say more.
Originally posted by Mindset
It does not have a gender
The book actually exclaims at one "IT is female!?" Or something to that effect.
but Pennywise is a guy.
Arguable. If someone changes their gender, say from female to male, are they actually male? I'd say no. For me it's the same thing with Mytque. Sure she may turn into males but she is truly a female. And when I said Pennywise I was reffering to all of It not just the clown.
Well then due to this shocking revelation my list is easily done.
1.Andre Linoge
2.Overlook Hotel (yeah sue me but it changed jack's mind into becoming the psycho he later became)
3.Pennywise(Fell two notches due to being female)--screw you ares.
4.Randall Flagg
5.Christine (yeah I know female car but what am I going to do)
Originally posted by ares834It is a cosmic being without a gender.
The book actually exclaims at one "IT is female!?" Or something to that effect.Arguable. If someone changes their gender, say from female to male, are they actually male? I'd say no. For me it's the same thing with Mytque. Sure she may turn into males but she is truly a female. And when I said Pennywise I was reffering to all of It not just the clown.
Humans can not even see It's true form, they don't know if it is a male or female.
The form Pennywise is male.
The fact that it was female was a huge plot point.
"OH DEAR JESUS IT IS FEMALE"
"It's female, and It's pregnant . . . It was pregnant then and none of us knew except Stan, oh Jesus Christ YES, it was Stan, Stan, not Mike, Stan who understood, Stan who told us . . .That's why we had to come back, no matter what, because It is female, It's pregnant with some unimaginable spawn . . . and Its time has drawn close."
So unless you want to argue with the text, It's female.
Originally posted by ares834Because they perceived it as a giant spider laying eggs, which would be female, that wasn't it's true from.
The fact that it was female was a huge plot point."OH DEAR JESUS IT IS FEMALE"
"It's female, and It's pregnant . . . It was pregnant then and none of us knew except Stan, oh Jesus Christ YES, it was Stan, Stan, not Mike, Stan who understood, Stan who told us . . .That's why we had to come back, no matter what, because It is female, It's pregnant with some unimaginable spawn . . . and Its time has drawn close."
So unless you want to argue with the text, It's female.
It even says his name is Robert.
I don't know what you aren't getting. It's a cosmic being that shape shifts into what ever form it wants. It has no set gender because it's a genderless entity that exists outside of our physical world.
Because they perceived it as a giant spider laying eggs, which would be female, that wasn't it's true from.
There's a reason King's typing up characters saying "IT'S FEMALE!"
There is simply no reason to believe he is lying to us.
Originally posted by Mindset
I don't know what you aren't getting. It's a cosmic being that shape shifts into what ever form it wants. It has no set gender because it's a genderless entity that exists outside of our physical world.
Why must a cosmic being be genderless? Hell, look at the Crimson King. He is well beyond Pennywise in the cosmic scale and is clearly a male figure.
He isn't lying, he also wasn't speaking as an omniscient narrator, those were kids (humans) who are incapable of seeing It's true form.
Why must it be genderless? Idk, ask King, he made it genderless.
It is just energy, did you completely forget what the Deadlights were, did you forget how It was described in the Macroverse?
Originally posted by Mindset
He isn't lying, he also was speaking as an omnicient narrator, those were kids (humans) who are incapable of seeing It's true form.Why must it be genderless? Idk, ask King, he made it genderless.
Not once stated.
It is just energy, did you completely forget what the Deadlights were, did you forget how It was described in the Macroverse?
Sure. Which doesn't preclude the possability of It being female.