Why did they do that to the Martian Manhunter, WHY?
I'm also not too happy with Wonder Woman.
Actually, the only peeps that got their dues was Batman, Flash, Superman. Hal was on par overall with that last feat I guess, still very average.
I am still waiting for a film that portrays the characters properly, not falling victim to massive PIS. I guess there wasn' much PIS in this film, but still not to the standards of something like Batman - Gotham Knight, where Batman's skills were portrayed as they should be and then some.
Ok, lots of ranting, I know, but I still enjoyed the film thoroughly.
I liked the film, though obviously, Tower of Babel is better.
I still just really can't get on board with Cyborg on the League, nor the reasoning behind it: A.) Him being a minority and B.) The fact he represents today's society and is our generation's hero (according to Geoff Johns). As a minority myself, I never really got off put or turned off by the League's primary members being mostly white characters. I like seeing prominent blacks and other minorities in comics - Mr. Terrific prior to the reboot was one of my favorite characters in DC - but I don't like writers cramming them into stories as a means to "throw us a bone". Meh, that's just me, though.
Originally posted by Kazenji
http://speedforce.org/2012/02/jldoom-figure-update/
Yeah I saw; looks pretty sweet. I just wish they offered them with other figures too.
Was a decent movie. I loved the fan service and the more adult tone to the movie. However, i will never understand why DC never seems to take the, Sun and outer space serious. The laws of space always seem to change according to plot convenience for DC. One moment it takes Superman years to travel through space to new solar systems, the next moment he can reach the sun within mere seconds. If you want to be realistic..,BE REALISTIC. There is no in between.
Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
Was a decent movie. I loved the fan service and the more adult tone to the movie. However, i will never understand why DC never seems to take the, Sun and outer space serious. The laws of space always seem to change according to plot convenience for DC. One moment it takes Superman years to travel through space to new solar systems, the next moment he can reach the sun within mere seconds. If you want to be realistic..,BE REALISTIC. There is no in between.
Actually, it's the movies that have been inconsistent. Superman has been able to travel ftl for years now.
I never read Tower of Babel (though I've been looking for it for a while now) and although I enjoyed the movie, I was also very disappointed by it. Especially with the plans.
The plans' 3 biggest problems IMO were:
1) They're not that clever. They don't seem like plans that only Batman would be able to come up with. Example: Kryptonite bullet. Do you really need Batman to come up with that? That's just common sense. The first time when I asked myself why none of Superman's villains shoot him with a Kryptonite bullet was when I was 12 years old. All the plans were just generic.
2) Batman kept saying his goal was to neutralize the League, not kill. That doesn't make any sense. NONE of the plans have a neutralized version except for Green Lantern's (which really is just a neutralized plan). Once again, example: Kryptonite bullet. How do you neutralize that?
3) None of the plans work for what they were originally intended. Their purpose is to take out members of the JL if they ever became villains/got mind-controlled. But if you think about it, IF any of the villains went rogue, none of the plans would have worked because the plans were based on predicting their decisions and actions WHILE they were heroes. But if Superman went rogue, why would he care about the guy that was about to commit suicide? He wouldn't have cared if he was mind-controlled or went evil. If Flash went rogue, why would he have cared to save the people in the train and if the bomb explodes and kills everyone in it? If Martian Manhunter went rogue, when would you get him to sit with you in a bar to give him the drink? If any of the League members actually went rogue, none of the plans would have worked.
I never read Tower of Babel (though I want to) but just from reading the basic plot on Wikipedia, I can already tell a straight adaptation of the comic would have been better and the plans would have made a lot more sense too. I would have also liked if the movie was about Batman not trusting the League and having all these plans to begin with. But they don't touch on that throughout the movie except for in the last 3 minutes.
Also, the very final scene made no sense for 2 reasons:
1) Superman gave Batman a piece of Kryptonite. This makes Batman's plans make even LESS sense. Batman wouldn't have came up with the Kryptonite bullet plan if he didn't have Kryptonite. Which means he must have already had Kryptonite before Superman gave him the piece of Kryptonite. So Superman giving him the piece was completely pointless. Either that or Bats didn't have Kryptonite to begin with, which means his plan wouldn't have worked if he had to use it because he would lack Kryptonite.
2) When Superman asked him if he had a plan to stop himself, he says "[His] plan is the Justice League." But how does he expect the League to stop him if he ever went rogue when he has all these plans to defeat them if they get in his way?
Overall, the movie was enjoyable but it lacked a lot. Especially in the plans.