Beat my Team (With Stipulations)

Please read the stipulations.

Pick a mixed team that matches mine. Your team can not be above the Herald tier. You're allowed one tank, one cosmic, one magical based (Juggernaut is barred), one brawler, one telepath or psionicist, one leader or tactician, one mythical/extradimensional. and one artificial lifeform.

Battle field removal is out. Pre Crisis DC Characters are not allowed.

There wil be two battles. One team based, and a one on one to decide which team wins. Death or KO accepted for the win.

My team

1. Red Hulk (Leader/Tactician)
2. Hulk (Tank)
3. Cyborg Superman (Artificial lifeform)
4. Pitt (Brawler)
5. Shadow King (Telepath/Psionicist)
6. Thor (Mystical/Extradimensional)
7. Silver Surfer (cosmic)
8. Dr. Strange classic (Magical based)

1. Superman (leader/tactician)
2. Kurse (brawler)
3. Adam Warlock (artificial lifeform)
4. Captain Marvel (tank)
5. Cassandra Nova (telepath)
6. Wonder Woman (mythical/extradimensional based)
7. Sinestro (cosmic)
8. Sentinel Alan Scott (magical based)

I think my team has good odds against yours.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
1. Superman (leader/tactician)
2. Kurse (brawler)
3. Adam Warlock (artificial lifeform)
4. Captain Marvel (tank)
5. Cassandra Nova (telepath)
6. Wonder Woman (mythical/extradimensional based)
7. Sinestro (cosmic)
8. Sentinel Alan Scott (magical based)

I think my team has good odds against yours.

I don't know man, I still think my team has a little weight on yours.

1. Dr Doom (Leader/Tactician)
2. Doomsday (tank)
3. Brainiac (Artificial lifeform)
4. Lobo (Brawler)
5. Apocalypse (Telepath/Psionicist)
6. Orion (Mythical/Extradimensional)
7. GL Hal (cosmic)
8. Loki (Magical based)

I'd say there's a number of characters listed here that I'd call above Herald, especially with recent showings.

Originally posted by Cogito
I'd say there's a number of characters listed here that I'd call above Herald, especially with recent showings.

Really so would you please shine the light on the ones that you believe are?

Originally posted by Cogito
I'd say there's a number of characters listed here that I'd call above Herald, especially with recent showings.

True.

Originally posted by Stoic
Really so would you please shine the light on the ones that you believe are?

Hank Henshaw
Classic Strange
Hulk (if you're using the Gamma Father/WBH incarnation)
Sentinel Alan Scott
Lobo

Originally posted by Cogito
I'd say there's a number of characters listed here that I'd call above Herald, especially with recent showings.

I just read Silver Surfer Annual 7, which was released in 2001, and The Surfer and Morgs fight made it clear to me, that surpassing the Herald Tier may not be as easy as some may at first believe.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Classic Strange

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Hank Henshaw
Classic Strange
Hulk (if you're using the Gamma Father/WBH incarnation)
Sentinel Alan Scott
Lobo

Depending on version Doomsday, Braniac, and Kurse as well.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
I agree the recent showings of classic Strange are hardcore.

Originally posted by Cogito
Depending on version Doomsday, Braniac, and Kurse as well.

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1. Vril Dox (Leader/Tactician)
2. Lobo (Tank)
3. ? (Artificial lifeform)
4. Wally (Brawler)
5. Shaman Nate (Telepath/Psionicist)
6. Absorbing Man (Mystical/Extradimensional)
7. Firestorm, Jason/Stein/Ronnie merged (cosmic)
8. Black Alice (Magical based)

^ Good team, Galan.

Anyway, I'll go ahead and break down my team as compared to Stoic's and argue why they'd win:

1. Superman vs. Rulk: Kal has superior stats across the board, and unless Rulk goes for the absorption trick from the get go, he's going to be put down.

2. Captain Marvel vs. Hulk: Similar to the above. Cap's got the stats to take down Hulk, imo, and do it before he amps to the point of being clearly beyond Billy. (I'm assuming this is WWH Hulk) In addition to the physical attributes, Cap's also has versatility in the form of amped strikes, summoned lightning, the ability to heal from said lightning, etc.

3. Adam Warlock vs. Cyborg Superman: Not much Adam can really do against Hank, admittedly. I doubt a karmic blast would effect him much, but you could argue Hank still possesses "a soul", but it's nothing I'd feel comfortable trying to base a strategy around.

4. Kurse vs. Pitt: Kurse is probably going to wreck him something fierce.

5. Cassandra Nova vs. Shadow King: Nova's trouncing of a massively amped Xavier using Cerebra is beyond Shadow King's capabilities, imo.

6. Wonder Woman vs. Thor: Thor would get the majority, but Diana makes him work for it.

7. Sinestro vs. Silver Surfer: They'd split, imo.

8. Sentinel Alan Scott vs. Classic Dr. Strange: Depends on how highly you think of either character, imo. Classic Strange has some ridiculous feats under his belt, but a good deal of them involve context and/or prep time. I feel in a direct battle, Alan holds the edge.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
^ Good team, Galan.

With my team I'm thinking Nate could, pretty easily, 'broaden' Creel's mind- ie. make him intelligent, as opposed to retarded. After doing so, Creel is going to be one of the more powerful fellas on the field, me thinks -- Alice is going to absorb the entirety of Thor and Strange's magics -- Lobo is going to beat the bejesus out of Hulk -- Wally is going to crush Pitt -- and I'm inclined to believe that Nate would best SK.

That leaves Rulk, Hank, and Surfer vs. an intelligent AM, Black Alice /w/ the power of Thor + Strange, Lobo, Wally, Firestorm, and Nate.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
I agree the recent showings of classic Strange are hardcore.

Recent showings wouldn't be classic.....would it?

1. Orion (leader/tactician)
2. Annihilus (brawler)
3. Jesus Cable (artificial lifeform)
4. Sentry (tank)
5. Onslaught 1st form (telepath)
6. Bor (mythical/extradimensional based)
7. Genis Vell (cosmic)
8. Loki (magical based)

Vilains List/Heroes List
1. Dr. Doom/Martian Manhunter (Tactician)
2. Grundy/Blue Marvel (Tank)
3. Ultron/Beta Ray Bill (A.I.)
4. Doomsday/Wonder Woman(Brawler)
5. Mr. Sinister/X-Man (Telepath)
6. Loki/Ghost Rider (Mystical)
7. Sinestro/Nova Prime w/ WM (Cosmic)
8. Black Adam/Dr. Fate (Magic)

1.Count Nefaria(Leader/Tactician)
2.Morg(Power Cosmic/WOL (Tank)
3.Death Metal(A.I.)
4.Durok(Brawler)
5.Moondragon (telepath)
6.Mojo (mythical/extradimensional based)
7.Vulcan(Cosmic)
8.Dr Doom(Mystic

Originally posted by Stoic
I just read Silver Surfer Annual 7, which was released in 2001, and The Surfer and Morgs fight made it clear to me, that surpassing the Herald Tier may not be as easy as some may at first believe.

Okay then my list is
Toaa
Living tribunal
Death
Oblivion
Eternity
Infinity
Order
Chaos
Love
Hate

Best...Team...Ever

1. Batman (Leader/Tactician)
2. Superman (Tank)
3. Red Tornado (Artificial lifeform)
4. Wonder Woman (Brawler)
5. Martian Manhunter (Telepath/Psionicist)
6. Flash (Wally West) (Mystical/Extradimensional)
7. GL Hal (cosmic)
8. Captain Marvel (Billy) (Magical based)

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