Psylocke vs Midnighter

Originally posted by jalek moye
If the writer stated his exact history is unchanged would that be enough for you (don't know if its the case but wondering)

Not to mention key individuals who impacted MM life like Superman are completely different characters then they were prior to the reboot. In fact prior to the current universe then had been in the flash point universe which further complicated matters. The entire reality was pretty much created in a sense by Bary.

Originally posted by jalek moye If the writer stated his exact history is unchanged would that be enough for you (don't know if its the case but wondering)

for me it is. the only real difference is when mm is on storwatch. hell be much more of a warrior. im sure paul will change some stuff, but either way mm is still powerful.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
for me it is.

Originally posted by Prep-Man

the only real difference is when mm is on storwatch. hell be much more of a warrior.

yea that not different at all right? one of the most peaceful characters, being on a team of killers 🙄

Originally posted by Prep-Man

im sure paul will change some stuff, but either way mm is still powerful.

I simply disagree with your insane assumption that sneaking up on MM constitutes MN being immune to Psylocke telepathy, which is foolishness. But thats par for the course with you reguarding wildstorm characters.

hey, if the writer said it was intact. then its intact. who said they are a team of killers?

Originally posted by Prep-Man
hey, if the writer said it was intact. then its intact.

Originally posted by Prep-Man

who said they are a team of killers?

Now that is not to say he could not be as powerful and as good at his abilities as he was in DC universe but to simply assume I think is a stretch given how much has changed. He needs to aleast establish a level of prowess before simply assuming after an issue that he same phistory/powerlevel in all his abilities.

Generally, DC seems to be taking the approach of picking and choosing what remains and what doesn't. There's really no guideline atm unless you can find a writer's statement or something on-panel.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Generally, DC seems to be taking the approach of picking and choosing what remains and what doesn't. There's really no guideline atm unless you can find a writer's statement or something on-panel.

Pretty much. They are keeping the good stuff and taking away the bad. Paul really liked MM history as is and won't be changing much.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
She does not need precog, she can read his mind. Even with out that ability she be more then a handful for him.

She could easily beat him via TK or Mind rape.

Also it not slightly better, but significantly, She been able to amp her strength well over 10 tons before.

Again, I'm supposing MN has tp resistance and hence reading his mind and mind-rape would be off the table. But yes, normally TP should net her a win, as I said in the first post (any throwing weapon should be dodged by her rather high skill).

In a comic MN might get the win, but Betsy at her best should foil him.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Except the writer never said that MM history was intacted nor that he was the same powerlevel in his abilities. You just assumed because you want MN feat to be more impressive then it is. But all that was said is that in the past he was on JLA, but so was superman, batman ect. Who have especially in Supermans cases had much different origins. So your trying to tell me he some how were to assume he some how magically immune to matter/universe manipulation.......

From reading them. They are all pretty willing to kill and in extreme cruel fashion. So if they are like there original selfs he be on a team of killers, but perhaps they were alter by the merger.

The WS characters are totally rebooted. Not all of them kills. And Paul said that MM history is intact.

Originally posted by Bentley
Again, I'm supposing MN has tp resistance and hence reading his mind and mind-rape would be off the table.

Having TP resistance does not make you immune to telepathy. Wolverine has more forms of TP resistances and better feats then MN and he not immune to telepathy. Not sure why you think having some tp resistances makes you immune it doesent. She been able to read several people with telepathic restances powerful onces, to assume MN is immune to her is an insane leap.

Originally posted by Bentley
But yes, normally TP should net her a win, as I said in the first post (any throwing weapon should be dodged by her rather high skill).

I don't even think MM telepathy was even brought up during the incident.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
The WS characters are totally rebooted. Not all of them kills. And Paul said that MM history is intact.

So, how powerful is her TK and TP compared to Captain Comets...?

Originally posted by cdtm
So, how powerful is her TK and TP compared to Captain Comets...?

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Having TP resistance does not make you immune to telepathy. Wolverine has more forms of TP resistances and better feats then MN and he not immune to telepathy. Not sure why you think having some tp resistances makes you immune it doesent. She been able to read several people with telepathic restances powerful onces, to assume MN is immune to her is an insane leap.

It will net her the win. MN not immune to telepathy nor does he have the feats to suggest he be immune to Psylocke.

I don't even think MM telepathy was even brought up during the incident.

Again, I don't recall if MN has tp ressistance, but I thought it was the case at some point. Even there, imo, tk is much more of a deal breaker.

I was talking about pre-relaunch MN anyways.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
I dont read captain comet so i have no idea. why is it relevent?

Because everyone pretty much agreed Captain Comet stomps MN.

Originally posted by Bentley
Again, I don't recall if MN has tp ressistance, but I thought it was the case at some point. Even there, imo, tk is much more of a deal breaker.

I was talking about pre-relaunch MN anyways.

TK is to much, if she wanted to she could just ripp him apart with it.

I was as well. It kinda pointless to debate a character who has one appearance

Originally posted by cdtm
Because everyone pretty much agreed Captain Comet stomps MN.

CC has nothing on Midnighter. 😛