Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
were in that scan, does that state it primary adamatium?
c'mon dum, i give you all that evidence and you want to see the WORD primary in a scan? it was the FIRST. it was a failed attempt to recreate PROTO-ADAMANTIUM (cap's shield). here's another handbook reference:
True Adamantium
This is the attempt at recreation of Proto-Adamantium. This is the Adamantium present in Wolverine. It is nearly as strong/durable, but unlike Proto [Adamantium] Primary is possible to be reproduced. Only beings with Godlike powers (such as Odinforce Thor) can manipulate Primary Adamantium.
there are at LEAST 4 others i could cite. if you're looking for the words primary adamantium, you'll never get it in a comic.
now, i've showed you tons of proof and all you've done is say "no".
--the shield>adamantium stated on panel
--thor dented primary adamantium
--hulk dented ultron
--the shield HAS been referred to (correctly now) as PROTO-ADAMANTIUM, exactly as i'd said earlier
all these things are well supported.
you want people to believe the first appearance of adamantium was actually SECONDARY?? hulk has literally SHREDDED secondary. morlun has ripped secondary. and yet you think that thor scan shows him hitting secondary--something that had never even been brought up for likely DECADES later? where's YOUR proof? unless you have some proof weight of evidence crushes your 'speculation'.
you say romoulus invented primary? prove it.
honestly, how you can look at all that proof and simply say "no" is baffling--especially without offering a SINGLE SHRED OF PROOF to support you. show me a friggin wiki even that says somewhere that ROMULUS INVENTED PRIMARY ADAMANTIUM. you asked for proof for MY stance, and i've given it--LOTS of it. it's funny--when i thought maybe i was wrong, i ADMITTED it right away. not gonna happen here though, is it? we may have bumped heads the odd time, but i thought you more open-minded than that dum. 😬
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
No he dident, Romulus did.
proof?
here again--from sabertooth's history:
While working for the elitist Hellfire Club, Sabretooth clashed with Wolverine in the latter’s capacity as an agent of the Canadian government’s Department K. Months later, an amnesiac Wolverine, having recently been subjected to experiments which bonded the unbreakable metal Adamantium to his skeleton, sought the advice of Adamantium creator Doctor Myron MacLain.
i've been looking for ANY proof that your claim has any veracity at ALL, but there is nothing, anywhere, that i can find. weapon x stole or obtained the bonding process illegally and there is support that romulus was in charge of weapon x. he may have been the guy behind the theft of the process and been responsible for bringing it to weapon x and hence to logan, but he most certainly did not invent primary adamantium. he stole it from the man who did--maclain.
your claim flies in the face of a WEALTH of evidence. i trust you have on-panel proof or at least something other than your own speculation to support it......
Originally posted by JakeTheBankHe fixed the shield pretty easily it was Tony's armor that he couldn't fix.
Molecule Man said that between the Surfer's board, Mjolnir, and Cap's shield, Cap's shield was "the strangest" of them all, implying its molecular make up was/is unique. IIRC, he couldn't even recreate the shield properly when he attempted to fix it after breaking it. I highly doubt Reece would have the same issue with adamantium.
He did says the shield had the weirdest molecule I think MM also fixed a flaw in the shield it's been a while since I read that issue so I could be wrong about that one.
yeah, the old crowd was predictable but fun to debate. i LOVE that jake went so far as to include amped prime at the start of this thread! shows the lengths some would go to to talk up logan back in the day. 😂
anyway, any one from juggs on could do it probably. then you get someone using the hulk fights to say even hulk can't ohko logan, so....i really have no idea i guess. lol