Originally posted by carver9
Wait a minute. Are you implying that since the city wasnt destroyed while Sentry was going all out "that doesn't make him powerful"? Let's not go there.
I was looking forward to that issue.
With all the hype that Sentry had and all the hype that WWHulk had, I was expecting this epic throw-down that would have threatened the stability of the planet Earth.
I was sorely disappointed by what I ended up getting. New York city wasn't even threatened by their fighting.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
yes it was
Eh, just barely.
I mean, if they had razed it to the ground because of their fighting, that would have been nice. But Hulk going Worldbreaker ended up being more damaging and more threatening than the guy hyped to have "stalemated Galactus" going all-out with no control over himself.
Originally posted by Mr.Mxyzptlk
I was looking forward to that issue.With all the hype that Sentry had and all the hype that WWHulk had, I was expecting this epic throw-down that would have threatened the stability of the planet Earth.
I was sorely disappointed by what I ended up getting. New York city wasn't even threatened by their fighting.
More so because every Herald Fight ends up with the destruction of a City, let alone the planet? I mean its not like we didn't see Aggies and Tenaburis vs Galactus and Silver Surfer end with with the decimation of that planet....oh wait the city they where fighting...oh shit! I've ran out of excuses. Why was that city still standing, if an Abstract + Herald knew they where going up against entities of of the same caliber?
Originally posted by carver9
I am referring to the Hulk Sentry fight. It was stated that the planet was at stake during their fight.
Well yes, and its no bluff. If the exchange between Photon vs Sentry lead to the destruction of a planet. The only reason Earth still stands, was due to plot or pis.
And lets be honest, marvel writers will not allow Earth to be destroyed compared to other random planet unless PIS is involved.
Originally posted by "Id"
More so because [b]every Herald Fight ends up with the destruction of a City, let alone the planet? I mean its not like we didn't see Aggies and Tenaburis vs Galactus and Silver Surfer end with with the decimation of that planet....oh wait the city they where fighting...oh shit! I've ran out of excuses. Why was that city still standing, if an Abstract + Herald knew they where going up against entities of of the same caliber? [/B]
You know, I find it funny that you bring this up with a fight concerning Stardust.
Since a moon and a planet got destroyed in her fights with Beta Ray Bill and she opened up a black hole to deal with him.
Both times her and Bill were at the epicenters of all that and she wasn't knocked unconscious by the destruction of celestial bodies around her.
I mean, people bring up how Bob with the Void win fights because he "can't die unless he wants to" but I've never seen him resurrect from the kind of things Stardust has.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
As Parm once put it, Earth is not a jobber planet.It's important, that's why the damage will be greatly contained no matter the level of characters, unless there is a big plot involved. Then widescale damage--even total planetary damage, may be invoked.
Well, I wouldn't say that it doesn't job, just that it's Plot armor is massively thick.
Originally posted by Mr.Mxyzptlk
You know, I find it funny that you bring this up with a fight concerning Stardust.Since a moon and a planet got destroyed in her fights with Beta Ray Bill and she opened up a black hole to deal with him.
Whats funny is I've yet to lowball Sentry low end feats.
And yet if the question is about, has the Sentry ever wrecked a planet. The answer is yes. Check Thunderboltz Sentry vs Photon match where both where holding back at the time.
Originally posted by Mr.MxyzptlkBoth times her and Bill were at the epicenters of all that and she wasn't knocked unconscious by the destruction of celestial bodies around her.
I mean, people bring up how Bob with the Void win fights because he "can't die unless he wants to" but I've never seen him resurrect from the kind of things Stardust has.
You mean resurrect from Molecule Man eating him? Of course not. You've made up your mind to block that feat all together.
Seriously he is as hard to kill off as stardust, since he is a being composed of psi energy. His physical body maybe destroyed, but as long as he has a conscious thought, he will be come back.
Originally posted by "Id"
You mean resurrect from Molecule Man eating him? Of course not. You've made up your mind to block that feat all together.Seriously he is as hard to kill off as stardust, since he is a being composed of psi energy. His physical body maybe destroyed, but as long as he has a conscious thought, he will be come back.
I ignore that feat because it was a one time throw away that needs extrapolation to really mean anything.
It's not like Molecule Man is Classic Beyonder level or anything anymore. I mean Daken was resisting what Molecule Man did to him with just his healing factor.
Like I said in the Thor/Superman/Sentry/Hercules four-way thread, Sentry is just too over the place with his feats and stability and when you average out his showings he's not that impressive compared to other characters.
And Bob doesn't even get the Void in this fight.
Edit: And I'm looking back at the fight with Genis...and....what am I supposed to be seeing here? Hyperbolic commentary from Captain America?
Siegetry is supposed to be the strongest version of Sentry/Void, no?
What he did during Siege was kill Ares, wreck Asgard, kill Loki and go toe to toe for a few rounds with Thor before being smacked down hard.
That in of itself is all very impressive but falls quite far of the guy who was hyped as this godly entity who could stalemate Galactus, go all out against Genis-Vell and curbstomp some version of Molecule Man.
And that's not even the version of Bob we're using here.
We're not even using the normal version of Bob who is Sentry and The Void at the same time.
We're using Bob without the Void.
Originally posted by Mr.MxyzptlkNarration was not needed, that was just icing on the cake. The planet Captain America was standing on was reduced to rubble.
I ignore that feat because it was a one time throw away that needs extrapolation to really mean anything.It's not like Molecule Man is Classic Beyonder level or anything anymore. I mean Daken was resisting what Molecule Man did to him with just his healing factor.
Like I said in the Thor/Superman/Sentry/Hercules four-way thread, Sentry is just too over the place with his feats and stability and when you average out his showings he's not that impressive compared to other characters.
And Bob doesn't even get the Void in this fight.
Edit: And I'm looking back at the fight with Genis...and....what am I supposed to be seeing here? Hyperbolic commentary from Captain America?
But hey if you plan to shoot that feat dow......oh yeah. You've already low balled it. Than whats the point of demanding feats, when you've made up your mind block them out?
Originally posted by Mr.Mxyzptlk
Siegetry is supposed to be the strongest version of Sentry/Void, no?What he did during Siege was kill Ares, wreck Asgard, kill Loki and go toe to toe for a few rounds with Thor before being smacked down hard.
That in of itself is all very impressive but falls quite far of the guy who was hyped as this godly entity who could stalemate Galactus, go all out against Genis-Vell and curbstomp some version of Molecule Man.
And that's not even the version of Bob we're using here.
We're not even using the normal version of Bob who is Sentry and The Void at the same time.
We're using Bob without the Void.
Regardless if its Void or Sentry, his ability to reform, and resurrect comes from the fact that he is a being of pure mental force.