Current Hulk vs Current Colossus

Originally posted by Rooster823
Momentum is what matters.....Weather or not he can move wwh from stand still is irrelevant....

It also has to be magic or cosmic power

1 gazillion pounds of normal pressure wont stop him

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
It also has to be magic or cosmic power

1 gazillion pounds of normal pressure wont stop him

Originally posted by The Sorrow
Not if someone claimed Juggernaut overpowered Hulk in that scan when it is clearly not the case. Juggernaut doesn't need to build up momentum if he wants to move he will move, unless the imposing force is greater than his enchantment.

The enchantment works off momentum....No momentum, nothing to stop....He may not overpower the hulk, but hulk can't stop is movement....without help from apocolypse of corse....

anyway based what I've read on both I'd say Colossus 6/10

I expect this fight SOON if Colossus keeps the gem for any amount of time.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
War Hulk did though and it may well be possible that Green Scar did aswell, apparently there is an interview with Gage or something.

Originally posted by Rooster823
The enchantment works off momentum....No momentum, nothing to stop....He may not overpower the hulk, but hulk can't stop is movement....without help from apocolypse of corse....

What is the unstoppable enchantment? Is is strength based? or is it similar thor's hammer? (even if you can lift a billions tons if you are not worthy you wont lift it) Let's say Colossus can lift a billion tons and hulk can lift 2 billion tons, will that strength difference stop Colossus from moving forward?

Colossus was being struck by lighting and hammer blows but still kept on coming. Does that mean even if he was reduced to a skeleton he would still keep manhandling and pushing kuurth? if so then its more of the enchantment than strength..

World war hulk did a lot better against classic juggs then Kuurth did against Colossus

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
War hulk had celestial tech that made hulk a nexus

who is faster? a hulk or an avatar of cyttorak? whats their top speed?

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk stated it on the next page. "Nothing can stop the Juggernaut huh? Be unstoppable somewhere else". It had nothing to do with strength.

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l92/priest_85/WWH_Xmen_3_DCP_0028.jpg

As for my point...Kuurth got pushed to another city with ease and per the fight, Kuurth was superior to Colossonaut. He holds no advantages against WWH let alone WBH.

Stomp.

Christos Gage said it was purely a test of strength.

The reason Juggernaut went flying is because Hulk made him start running by pushing him on the shoulder.

^ Juggernaut was lunging forward once WWH let go before WWH slapped him in the back. Which means he was trying to move forward.

There really aren't two ways about it. WWH stalemated classic Juggernaut. He wasn't pushing him back like Thor's godblast did, but he stopped him from moving forward. And War Hulk only stopped Juggernaut after being pushed back (for what seemed to be miles) across the landscape.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Juggernaut was lunging forward once WWH let go before WWH slapped him in the back. Which means he was trying to move forward.

There really aren't two ways about it. WWH stalemated classic Juggernaut. He wasn't pushing him back like Thor's godblast did, but he stopped him from moving forward. And War Hulk only stopped Juggernaut after being pushed back (for what seemed to be miles) across the landscape.

That is one of the reasons I always thought of WWH as War Hulk superior due to that one scene. It took War Hulk a long distance to stop Juggernaut whereas WWH did it almost instantly. I mentioned this in the WWH vs War Hulk thread.

^ At the same time, after War Hulk halted him, War Hulk beat the crap out of Juggernaut convincingly whereas at base levels, WWH did not. He was just keeping pace with him.

juggernaut was also charging in on war hulk, in wwh he started off at neutral.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ At the same time, after War Hulk halted him, War Hulk beat the crap out of Juggernaut convincingly whereas at base levels, WWH did not. He was just keeping pace with him.

The fight started off kind of different between the two though. Juggernaut bull rushed WWH kicking and punching. During his fight against War Hulk, he started off using his momentum.

Don't see a clear winner if Colossus has anywhere near Juggs full power.

Originally posted by carver9
The fight started off kind of different between the two though. Juggernaut bull rushed WWH kicking and punching. During his fight against War Hulk, he started off using his momentum.

IMO War Hulk was slightly beneath Onslaught's strength level, both instances were from around the same time period and they both treated Juggernaut like nothing.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
juggernaut was also charging in on war hulk, in wwh he started off at neutral.

Originally posted by carver9
The fight started off kind of different between the two though. Juggernaut bull rushed WWH kicking and punching. During his fight against War Hulk, he started off using his momentum.