Originally posted by DARTH POWER
??? Prime's used his speed on plenty of occasions..And why's Prime not destroying the Planet?? He tried to destroy the Universe, so a Planet is small pickings for him.
Prime fights head on like he fought 90% of his fight head on without using this so called untouchable speed.
When has Prime destroyed a planet during fist cuffs?
Originally posted by carver9He dashed into the core of an Earth without villains because the heroes on it got rid off them.
Prime fights head on like he fought 90% of his fight head on without using this so called untouchable speed.When has Prime destroyed a planet during fist cuffs?
The Earth was gone after that.
Originally posted by carver9
Prime fights head on like he fought 90% of his fight head on without using this so called untouchable speed.
Most the guys he fights in the DCU also have untouchable speeds. Has SBP lost a fight to anyone 1000 times slower than him?? I doubt it.
Originally posted by carver9
When has Prime destroyed a planet during fist cuffs?
He flew off mid-fight against Bart to destroy the Universe! You really telling me if he's losing to Hulk he wouldn't be willing to do the same to the planet they're fighting on??
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Most the guys he fights in the DCU also have untouchable speeds. Has SBP lost a fight to anyone 1000 times slower than him?? I doubt it.He flew off mid-fight against Bart to destroy the Universe! You really telling me if he's losing to Hulk he wouldn't be willing to do the same to the planet they're fighting on??
Prime rarely if ever use super speed and the times he does use it, its to bull rush. Let's not pretend as if he goes around fighting like Wally.
Prime has been in many fights and in some he was losing and you give me one instance of him trying to do destroy the universe and try to throw it off as something common. Doesn't work like that.
This would more than likely turn out to be a fist fight.
Originally posted by carver9
Prime rarely if ever use super speed and the times he does use it, its to bull rush. Let's not pretend as if he goes around fighting like Wally.
Yeah but lets not pretend Wally can afford to fool around and not use his speed. He cant. Prime is one of the strongest beings in DCU. He's not usually worried about getting hit. But show me where he was getting thrashed by someone 1000 times slower, and yet refused to use his superior speed to his advantage.
He of course uses his speed in combat when he needs it, especially if he's losing. Like when he was fighting off the Flashes.
Originally posted by carver9
Prime has been in many fights and in some he was losing and you give me one instance of him trying to do destroy the universe and try to throw it off as something common. Doesn't work like that.
Well im not saying he's gna destroy the Universe every time. But the fact is he was losing to Bart, and had every hero on DC Earth against him, so he got fed up and actually did go to destroy the Universe in that instance.
So I dnt see how you can say theres no way he'd resort destroying the planet IF he was getting a beat down from the Hulk. Of course it depends what Planet they are fighting on, but a Planet is hardly a Universe, and we know Prime has no problem whatsoever destroying planets. And we know from his fight with Bart, if things arnt going his way he can easily fly off and do something crazy like that!
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Yeah but lets not pretend Wally can afford to fool around and not use his speed. He cant. Prime is one of the strongest beings in DCU. He's not usually worried about getting hit. But show me where he was getting thrashed by someone 1000 times slower, and yet refused to use his superior speed to his advantage.He of course uses his speed in combat when he needs it, especially if he's losing. Like when he was fighting off the Flashes.
Well im not saying he's gna destroy the Universe every time. But the fact is he was losing to Bart, and had every hero on DC Earth against him, so he got fed up and actually did go to destroy the Universe in that instance.
So I dnt see how you can say theres no way he'd resort destroying the planet IF he was getting a beat down from the Hulk. Of course it depends what Planet they are fighting on, but a Planet is hardly a Universe, and we know Prime has no problem whatsoever destroying planets. And we know from his fight with Bart, if things arnt going his way he can easily fly off and do something crazy like that!
I agree, Prime is one of the strongest beings in the Universe and Prideful at that which is the reason he results in going fist cuffs.
I don't get your speed argument. He fought plenty of people and its pretty much common sense speed wasn't involved during these fights...including his fight against ION. That's like me saying that since Hulk fought Gladiator, Sentry, Genis, Hyperion, etc, etc...he has light speed reaction. This argument can't go one way.
By the way, if Prime exits the battle field, he automatically lose due to bfring himself.
Originally posted by carver9
I agree, Prime is one of the strongest beings in the Universe and Prideful at that which is the reason he results in going fist cuffs.I don't get your speed argument. He fought plenty of people and its pretty much common sense speed wasn't involved during these fights...including his fight against ION. That's like me saying that since Hulk fought Gladiator, Sentry, Genis, Hyperion, etc, etc...he has light speed reaction. This argument can't go one way.
By the way, if Prime exits the battle field, he automatically lose due to bfring himself.
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Originally posted by carver9
I don't get your speed argument. He fought plenty of people and its pretty much common sense speed wasn't involved during these fights...including his fight against ION. That's like me saying that since Hulk fought Gladiator, Sentry, Genis, Hyperion, etc, etc...he has light speed reaction. This argument can't go one way.
Yeah except big difference is we know as a fact SBP has lightspeed reflexes. We also know as a fact the Hulk has not got Lightspeed reflexes.
And your argument can be turned the other way.. theres plenty of fights SBP was in when its clear he was fighting near lightspeed. The obvious examples would be his fights against the Flashes.
I dnt really understand this ongoing "lets ignore Kryptonians having near LS super speed" argument on these boards.
This board doesn't like speed in general because it's so commonly ignored in comic because there wouldn't be a story otherwise. Case and point being the Flash anytime after Rebirth. His speed had no limits and was constantly approaching infinity. Time wasn't a barrier, Flash showed limited matter manip with the costume generation. Of course if he does this everytime his Rogues gallery would never stand a chance in hell. Captain Cold, Boomerang and others would be jokes as would any other considering one of the fastest attacks in the universe i.e. omega beams failed to catch a Flash and the Black Racer failed as well. Additionally spamming superman+ level punches gets stupid as well.
Also on this forum by forum rules the speed shouldn't be an issue as it is well within most Flashes powersets to speedforce taps and while most people call it CIS it is most definitely under the PIS category which isn't taken into account. Also there is the idea that it is out of character but at the same time forum rules say they will go to the best of their ability without going out of character. Going out of character for most speedsters involves not killing someone. It does not mean that they won't make a fool out of their opponents by displaying their speed. Hell it's almost a speedster trademark to have an arrogant showing of superiority by carelessly dodging any attempt an enemy makes to tag them. So running at top speed to dodge any attack is not out of character even if people want to argue abusing speed as an attack method is due to it's potential lethality.
Prime should be no different in this case as should anyone with superspeed whom even in past confrontations have been tagged whom should never have been tagged by simple bricks short of extraneous circumstances.