If Thanos ranks as a 100 in intelligence...

Originally posted by cdtm
Doom claimed one of Thanos's spy gadgets was more advanced than his.

Doom and Reed are good, but Thanos works on a grander scale. Dooms thinking about power jacking Big G or taking over the world, Thanos is supplanting the cosmic beings or becoming allfather of the multiverse...

Thanos thinks about getting roasted by Big G. Thanos being given THOTU isn't a feat. It was a trap designed for him. In the meantime, Doom took Beyonder's power and HoM Wanda's power.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Thanos proved one of Doom's power stealing gadgets was more advanced than his... by failing for months to strip and transfer the Power Cosmic.

Thanos thinks about getting roasted by Big G. Thanos being given THOTU isn't a feat. It was a trap designed for him. In the meantime, Doom took Beyonder's power and HoM Wanda's power.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
If Thanos ranks as a 100 in intelligence, where do the following characters rank?

As is standard, above 100 indicates someone who is smarter than Thanos...under 100 indicates someone who is less intelligent than Thanos.

1) Reed Richards - 80
2) Doctor Doom - 79
3) Tony Starks - 70
4) Lex Luthor - 70
5) Brainiac - 75
6) Bruce Wayne - 65
7) Mephisto - I don't think they can compare... Mephisto is more like a cunning dude, note a science mind.
8) Uatu - Like Mephisto
9) Odin - Like Uatu

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1) Reed Richards...300
2) Doctor Doom...290
3) Tony Starks...200
4) Lex Luthor...150
5) Brainiac...310
6) Bruce Wayne... 160
7) Mephisto...90
8) Uatu...50
9) Odin...20

Originally posted by Desaad
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1) Reed Richards...300
2) Doctor Doom...290
3) Tony Starks...200
4) Lex Luthor...150
5) Brainiac...310
6) Bruce Wayne... 160
7) Mephisto...90
8) Uatu...50
9) Odin...20

I don't think any of them are smarter than Thanos. Thanos created numerous of clones, perfect clones using his intellect and one of them were more powerful than Galactus himself. Thanos gained the gem through using his devious mind and almost took over the universe.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos wasn't given the hotu. He put himself in that situation and was the best man for the job not Doom. Doom couldn't handle the Beyonder's power and his will was broken.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Thanos proved one of Doom's power stealing gadgets was more advanced than his... by failing for months to strip and transfer the Power Cosmic.

Thanos thinks about getting roasted by Big G. Thanos being given THOTU isn't a feat. It was a trap designed for him. In the meantime, Doom took Beyonder's power and HoM Wanda's power.

Doom already admitted Thanos tech is more advanced. Period. No amount of spinning changes this fact.

^ Thanos has more advanced spy tech by Doom's statements. Doom has more advanced time travel tech and energy siphoning/transferrence tech by Doom's tech feats. No amount of spinning changes these facts.

Originally posted by Mindset
That Doom's soul was broken, or something to that effect.

Originally posted by carver9
I don't think any of them are smarter than Thanos. Thanos created numerous of clones, perfect clones using his intellect and one of them were more powerful than Galactus himself. Thanos gained the gem through using his devious mind and almost took over the universe.

THOTU obviously doesn't even enter the equation considering he was gifted it and fooled into taking it.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Doom already admitted Kang's tech is more advanced. Period. No amount of spinning changes this fact.

Just jumping in, you know, to help ODG 😖hifty:

Originally posted by Bentley
Just jumping in, you know, to help ODG 😖hifty:

That kills my argument..

Although I also would have accepted Daredevil admitting Captain America is faster, when he clearly isn't.

One indisputable fact though:

Doom's been defeated or outplayed. Thanos never really has been.. The only times he's really been beaten on the big stage, is when he beats himself because of his mental blocks..

I think that when your ego is as big as Doom's you can take your declarations of inferiority quite seriously. Kang's tech also proved to be better in Infinity War...

^ Kang not having the wherewithal to recognize and openly admit that Doom's other tech is better than his own can't be held against Doom. Particularly when it's Doom's tech that forms the basis of Kang's tech and his empire in the first place.

Originally posted by cdtm
That kills my argument..

Although I also would have accepted Daredevil admitting Captain America is faster, when he clearly isn't.

One indisputable fact though:

Doom's been defeated or outplayed. Thanos never really has been.. The only times he's really been beaten on the big stage, is when he beats himself because of his mental blocks..

Thanos being Thanos' own worst enemy isn't exactly something to be proud of.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Kang not having the wherewithal to recognize and openly admit that Doom's other tech is better than his own can't be held against Doom. Particularly when it's Doom's tech that forms the basis of Kang's tech and his empire in the first place.

Dude, I'm trying to help you here 😠

Did you miss those scans where Doom admits Kang is his superior (techwise)? They are in the last page of my respect thread, see the context if you want to, Avengers v1 25. Or we could refer to him needed his tech in Infinity War. Or to an infant Nathaniel Richards manhandling his tech with his personal armor 🙄

Seriously though, my point was that nobody -not even me- would argue that Kang is smarter than Doom because his tech is more advanced, and that the same criterea should be applied to Thanos.

Originally posted by Bentley
I think that when your ego is as big as Doom's you can take your declarations of inferiority quite seriously. Kang's tech also proved to be better in Infinity War...

On the other hand, Thanos has the tech he has because he grew up in a super-advanced civilization and has accumulated tech from various other advanced alien races. Whereas Doom grew up in a relatively low-tech environment but has invented time travel and energy siphons more advanced than Thanos's. Someone like Apocalypse uses Celestial tech, which would impress most people if they saw it, but in private he admits he doesn't understand it. It's not always easy to compare this stuff.

If we compared Archimedes or Newton to some guy on the street today who has 500 apps on his iPhone, drives a car with onboard computer systems and GPS navigation, and microwaves his genetically modified food to eat, I think I know who I would still bet on as likely to be the most 'intelligent'.

I'm not saying that Kang is smarter though, and that's exactly my point.

But Kang by his own right is a genius, as his advances in time physics are a personal development -including constructing multiversal artifacts-, and he's an expert in robotics since he was a kid. With low tech he managed to remain in suspended animation for millenia and altered XIXth century tech so he could control robots a century later. Just for the record.

Doctor Doom - Over 9000.

^ Win.

Originally posted by Bentley
Dude, I'm trying to help you here 😠

Did you miss those scans where Doom admits Kang is his superior (techwise)? They are in the last page of my respect thread, see the context if you want to, Avengers v1 25. Or we could refer to him needed his tech in Infinity War. Or to an infant Nathaniel Richards manhandling his tech with his personal armor 🙄

Seriously though, my point was that nobody -not even me- would argue that Kang is smarter than Doom because his tech is more advanced, and that the same criterea should be applied to Thanos.

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I retract nothing I've said anyway. biscuits

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Thanos has more advanced spy tech by Doom's statements. Doom has more advanced time travel tech and energy siphoning/transferrence tech by Doom's tech feats. No amount of spinning changes these facts. His soul was incomplete due to the Beyonder's temporal tampering when he plucked Doom from the present and sent him to the past. Doom's greatest feats > Thanos', straight up. The clones were disastrous mistakes even according to Thanos. And with respect to the Infinity Gems, Thanos benefitted from an amp by Death, her Infinity Well, loads of prep time and a long campaign. Doom had a few hours to tackle the Beyonder after he had already been devastated by Galactus' power.

THOTU obviously doesn't even enter the equation considering he was gifted it and fooled into taking it.

Post the scene... I don't remember the term spy tech used.. and just remember it as Thanos tech in general is more advanced. Do you remember thanos creating an all new gem? that ranks up there with being greater than anything do has ever done.

Surely you don't wanna talk about losses... my god... Doom has so many more of them compared to Thanos it's not even funny. In fact, when Doom gets duped and punked it's by earth's heroes.. when Thanos does... it's by skyfathers or cosmics. You're right, they are worlds apart.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Iron Man? Original Adam Warlock? Odin? Squirrel Girl? Annihilus? And those are just his utter defeats or where he's utterly duped. Then there's him getting tooled by Magus at various times, murdered by Drax (twice), spanked by Galactus, etc.
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IM was a Thanos clone. Warlock is a good point. Annihilus did dupe him, but Thanos was on his way to setting things right, until Drax stepped in..

And there's no shame in getting spanked by Galactus, or eventually getting killed by an entity tailor made to kill you. But when he had the Cosmic Cube, Infinity Gauntlet, or HOTU, no hero could take it from him. The same can't be said of Doom with, say, Galactus's power, as Reed Richards usually manages to take his power from him.