Can't picture anyone under Skyfather pulling this off.
4 beings attacking him at the same time...4 powerful beings and he isn't even acknowledging it.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/59/39432975.jpg/
That's some Odin sh**.
Can't picture anyone under Skyfather pulling this off.
4 beings attacking him at the same time...4 powerful beings and he isn't even acknowledging it.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/59/39432975.jpg/
That's some Odin sh**.
Powering through another Elite Heralds attack like he isn't even feeling it. Something that is pretty much above Herald and even trans level of power.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/8094158/Incredible_Hulks_632_013.jpg.html
Originally posted by carver9thats is most certainly not above trans
Powering through another Elite Heralds attack like he isn't even feeling it. Something that is pretty much above Herald and even trans level of power.http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/8094158/Incredible_Hulks_632_013.jpg.html
Originally posted by carver9what? 😂 you do know that we are on an open forum right? If you dont want me or someone else commenting on your posts then dont post them. You said that feat could be above trans and I disagreed. Nothing more to it.
Not doubting what he is saying...I don't even know why he responded to my post...I'm not attacking him.
Originally posted by carver9
Powering through another Elite Heralds attack like he isn't even feeling it. Something that is pretty much above Herald and even trans level of power.http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/8094158/Incredible_Hulks_632_013.jpg.html
who is that character thats blasting away at hulk??
Originally posted by Bentley
This statement is false. First, considering that heralds are considering by the flexibility of their powerset, you could feasibly have many heralds who can use unstoppable kills against other heralds and they wouldn't be above heralds. Second, considering that heralds have a certain cap of physical resistance that we can assume, that would make killing an herald impressive, even planet busting attacks -heck, make it star busting- wouldn't necessarily kill certain heralds. Third, we'd have to go through average feats: Hal could one-hit kill Surfer or Thor with his Krona buster blast and nobody started throwing sh_t saying that Hal was trans/skyfather level, this also considering Hal has incredible flexibility when compared to Hulk. Bottomline: Any argument that tries to bump Hulk above heralds just using his physical powers is faulty in several level.WHICH, isn't to say that in certain conditions Hulk would absolutely triumph most of the people of his tier, the problem is that posters are acting as if this was something new, when this has always been the case. Hulk's physical potential, increasing strength and healing factor have always been the reasons for him to be considered an herald level.
Keep in mind that I'm discussing about the tiers as they were argued and discussed back when they were created and not about particular perceptions of such tiers which may have spawned more recently. All things considered, maybe current Hulk would indeed be bumped up from its past status considering his feats, but he was still -back then, when he busted a platenoid twice the size of Earth in his weakest incarnation- a "measly" low-herald -the same level than the absolutely indestructible Juggernaut, the highest you could get by just getting physical power-, which allows a fair amount of growth without throwing the whole tiers out of proportion.
This is my opinion as a Hulk fan who has enjoyed enough debates including the character, trying to give some continuity to his history in this forum.
Now you can continue throwing sh_t at each other 😮
Not really. Ok firstly, you have to take that statement I made within the context of the entire post. It had to do with hulks physical strength and should have read....a character whose strength is great enough to kill heralds without even touching them is above herald. Secondly I was talking in general terms and I of course acknowledge that he can't kill every single herald within that tier and that there would be certain heralds that he can't put down at all. However I was speaking in terms of direct power level portrayals in the same way that one would say that Thanos is above heralds because he easily beats them down usually, though there are indeed some in the herald level category that he cant put down and who some give a majority against him.
Thirdly your talk on averages is conflating characters high feats with a situation in which a character has attained a new power level. There is a clear differentiation even on forums between the WBH prrsona of hulk and the savage hulk or any other hulk persona. That differentiation is what makes us treat that depiction of the character hulk as a separate character and judge him independent of his other personas. Hence what we use is the consistent portrayal of WBH specifically not hulk in general since that would certainly average out. Hals krona busting feat was just that...a feat. It was a not a new version of Hal who could be specifically differentiated from his previous self. It was simply a high feat. Hence the reason that no one mentions hall as being above herald even with that feat...because we accept that most heralds have high feats. If you read my other post in totality, you will see that I acknowledged that their are other characters and even versions of hulk that have feats that outstrip what even WBH did, but that those feats are outliers and high feats in their history and they thus differ from WBH who in his brief existence was consistently portrayed at that specific level.
Taking the WBH character specifically into account and using his consistently portrayed power level, he is certainly above herald. That shouldn't even be debatable as his physical characteristics make him into the same physical trans level beings ala Kurse, Doomsday etc with the only difference being that this hulk has better feats
Originally posted by BentleyAlright dude than list me at least 10 heralds who can do what you say in this post???
This statement is false. First, considering that heralds are considering by the flexibility of their powerset, you could feasibly have many heralds who can use unstoppable kills against other heralds and they wouldn't be above heralds. Second, considering that heralds have a certain cap of physical resistance that we can assume, that would make killing an herald impressive, even planet busting attacks -heck, make it star busting- wouldn't necessarily kill certain heralds. Third, we'd have to go through average feats: Hal could one-hit kill Surfer or Thor with his Krona buster blast and nobody started throwing sh_t saying that Hal was trans/skyfather level, this also considering Hal has incredible flexibility when compared to Hulk. Bottomline: Any argument that tries to bump Hulk above heralds just using his physical powers is faulty in several level.WHICH, isn't to say that in certain conditions Hulk would absolutely triumph most of the people of his tier, the problem is that posters are acting as if this was something new, when this has always been the case. Hulk's physical potential, increasing strength and healing factor have always been the reasons for him to be considered an herald level.
Keep in mind that I'm discussing about the tiers as they were argued and discussed back when they were created and not about particular perceptions of such tiers which may have spawned more recently. All things considered, maybe current Hulk would indeed be bumped up from its past status considering his feats, but he was still -back then, when he busted a platenoid twice the size of Earth in his weakest incarnation- a "measly" low-herald -the same level than the absolutely indestructible Juggernaut, the highest you could get by just getting physical power-, which allows a fair amount of growth without throwing the whole tiers out of proportion.
This is my opinion as a Hulk fan who has enjoyed enough debates including the character, trying to give some continuity to his history in this forum.
Now you can continue throwing sh_t at each other 😮
Originally posted by TheHulk
Alright dude than list me at least 10 heralds who can do what you say in this post???
Which part? (Though I don't think the question is the right one, every powerset brings different things to the table, so it's not about asking "who can do the same things that Hulk can do" but more like "who can do equally impressive things"😉
Originally posted by BentleyThe Part where you say some Heralds can survive what hulk did to the dark dimension ,the part where you the hal kronus thing
Which part? (Though I don't think the question is the right one, every powerset brings different things to the table, so it's not about asking "who can do the same things that Hulk can do" but more like "who can do equally impressive things"😉
Originally posted by TheHulk
The Part where you say some Heralds can survive what hulk did to the dark dimension ,the part where you the hal kronus thing
A single blackhole could kill those characters in the Dark Dimension just as easily.
Originally posted by Naija boy
Well I was clarifying my stance as you had come at me from an angle that actually misunderstood what I was talking about. Hence your argument against me did not apply.
Ah, yeah, I hadn't been following the whole thread, sorry if I misrepresented your argument.
Originally posted by carver9lol at that feat being above Trans when Thanos accomplished almost the same thing against Odin
Powering through another Elite Heralds attack like he isn't even feeling it. Something that is pretty much above Herald and even trans level of power.http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/8094158/Incredible_Hulks_632_013.jpg.html
