Gamora vs. Cassandra Cain

Gamora was able to beat thanos, so could she give arguably the greatest human dc H2H fighter a beating or not

1) Cassandra Cain isn't DC's greatest human H2H fighter.

2) Gamora would stomp the hell out of her.

Originally posted by SWblayde938
Gamora was able to beat thanos, so could she give arguably the greatest human dc H2H fighter a beating or not

Gamora would absolutly crush Cassandra.

Originally posted by oldsmokey
1) Cassandra Cain isn't DC's greatest human H2H fighter.

Yea, that'd be Karate Kid.

---

Anyway, Gamora's a good martial artist and very significantly superhuman, like Spider-man level, as well as a healing factor, so even if they're close on skill (and it is pretty hard to tell Gamora's skill against other martial artists, she fights a lot of high-powered types but just about the only martial artist I can think of her fighting is Wolverine), she's got a rather sizable advantage. To an observer, it'd look like a good fight at first, but hits from Gamora will do a lot more damage, and Cassandra's a lot less.

If not by skills, Gamora certainly wins by superior stats. She is superhuman to booth.

Gamora one shots her. Gamora fights heralds she is like WW but with less power.

i mean gamora did beat thanos

If Gamora hits Cass, it's over.

But I can't see Gamora hitting Cass.. Gamora's good, but when it comes to speed feats she's no Mantis.

Originally posted by cdtm
If Gamora hits Cass, it's over.

But I can't see Gamora hitting Cass.. Gamora's good, but when it comes to speed feats she's no Mantis.

Batman, Nightwing, Robin, Shiva, Cane, GA, even Onyx, have all hit Batgirl. Gamora won't have much trouble.

Outliers, and in Shiva's case she shares Cass's body reading trick.

Batmans fights with Cass at the end of her solo series wasn't even a serious fight, that was simply Batmans attempt at trying to get through to Cass. An alternate form of communication, basically.

But if Cass was serious, she'd wipe the floor with Batman.

Originally posted by cdtm
Outliers, and in Shiva's case she shares Cass's body reading trick.

Batmans fights with Cass at the end of her solo series wasn't even a serious fight, that was simply Batmans attempt at trying to get through to Cass. An alternate form of communication, basically.

But if Cass was serious, she'd wipe the floor with Batman.

Not outliers my friend, simply the difference between fighting nameless fodder / C list villains and fighting actual top tier martial artists.

That's a colorful interpretation of the fight, but not what actually happened.

If Batman fought Cass seriously he would wipe the floor with her. Her best accomplishment is narrowly beating Lady Shiva, a feat she can only accomplish because of CIS on Shiva's part. There is no indication what-so-ever in the history of either character that Shiva could or would beat Batman in a h2h fight conclusively or otherwise. Narrowly edging out a character that has never shown the ability to beat Batman, isn't nearly enough to give Cass the edge over Batman. Plain and simple.

Originally posted by cdtm
If Gamora hits Cass, it's over.

But I can't see Gamora hitting Cass.. Gamora's good, but when it comes to speed feats she's no Mantis.

Everyone from robin, to Nighwing, to Shiva, to Batman have hit Cass.

cdtm logic equals epic fail. You suck at logic.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Everyone from robin, to Nighwing, to Shiva, to Batman have hit Cass.

cdtm logic equals epic fail. You suck at logic.

This from the poster who names himself after Daredevil, yet thinks Wolverine can match his speed feats.

He can't, for the record.

Originally posted by cdtm
This from the poster who names himself after Daredevil, yet thinks Wolverine can match his speed feats.

He can't, for the record.

He can and he has. Try again.

Gamora. Too strong.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Not outliers my friend, simply the difference between fighting nameless fodder / C list villains and fighting actual top tier martial artists.

That's a colorful interpretation of the fight, but not what actually happened.

That's exactly what happened.

Oracle: "Ok Bruce, you can drop the charade. I know you planned that whole thing. There are gas masks in that damned utility belt of yours, and you'd be expecting Dr. Death to pull a stunt like that. So here's my question: were you really under the influence of soul, or was it all a big act?"

Batman: "The drug was real. Not as effective as Death claims, but it was enough."

Oracle: "Then why? Why in the name of god did you put Cassandra and yourself through that?"

Batman: "Because she needed it. We both did."

Oracle: "What? Are you saying it was some kind of screwed up therapy session?"

Batman: "What other therapy would Cassandra understand? She grew up with no human contact apart from violence. Fighting is her language, Barbara. The core of her being. Of her soul. She had things she needed to get off her chest. And so did I."

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
He can and he has. Try again.

No, he can't.

Originally posted by cdtm
That's exactly what happened.

Oracle: "Ok Bruce, you can drop the charade. I know you planned that whole thing. There are gas masks in that damned utility belt of yours, and you'd be expecting Dr. Death to pull a stunt like that. So here's my question: were you really under the influence of soul, or was it all a big act?"

Batman: "The drug was real. Not as effective as Death claims, but it was enough."

Oracle: "Then why? Why in the name of god did you put Cassandra and yourself through that?"

Batman: "Because she needed it. We both did."

Oracle: "What? Are you saying it was some kind of screwed up therapy session?"

Batman: "What other therapy would Cassandra understand? She grew up with no human contact apart from violence. Fighting is her language, Barbara. The core of her being. Of her soul. She had things she needed to get off her chest. And so did I."

You're reading too much into what was said. Cass had no knowledge of what his intention was, she simply wanted to fight him. He was letting her work some stuff out by allowing her to fight him, but what that tells us is a Batman who isn't even taking the fight seriously can still avoid Cass's attacks and land hits on her without any problem. Which doesn't really help you case at all. If that conversation had been between Cass and Babs and Cass said everything Bruce had said, that would be one thing, but as it that bit of narration makes Cass come off even worse then she did in the actual exchange because it shows that Bruce totally had his way with her.

Originally posted by cdtm
No, he can't.

Wolverine has better speed feats than Daredevil, it's not even up for debate.

^ The wrongness of this statement cannot be understated.