Originally posted by Foxy ShazamHAHAHA He was never amped by man.it so happens he was holding back in WWH and other story acrs before Heart Of The Monster and when he finally decided to let loose he did what he did in the Dark Dimension....
Actually, your right. They didn't. None the less, they would have had the kept fighting. Also add the fact they were both weakened, and Hulk was amped.I stand by my point that this is nothing new.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
It always seemed to me that Sentry beating Void is more mental than physical.
But more to the point, The Sentry/Void powers blur the lines between mental and physical in that they establish a form of matter manipulation/reality warp, as being the very essence of their power. So when Sentry threw Void into the sun, that conflict could have happened both in Robert's mind and hovering above the sun in 616 MU. There just isn't a clear division between the two planes.
What was evidenced by The Sentry's fight with Hulk though was that The Sentry felt relief at having a target, an object to hit out at without remorse, guilt, regret, fear or any rebuke ... The Hulk was the bad guy that needed to be put down, he was the drunk sheriff with an itchy trigger-finger just yearning for something to blast away at. They made a perfect battle and The Sentry let loose wholeheartedly, giddily and with genuine gratitude towards Hulk for the opportunity.
This is more than he's ever done against The Void or even allowed The Void to do against anyone. He literally tapped out, shot his load and with a dizzy head went out for the count.
It wasn't the smartest use of his powers, but it was a full use of his "a million exploding suns", against a foe whom he fully expected to be able to withstand it.
Well, that's a lot of rambling I've done there 😐 I just wanted to flesh out my thinking on The Sentry - Hulk fight and how that fits into The Sentry/Void dynamic.
Originally posted by janus77good post!
Inasmuch as The Void is a manifestation of Robert Reynold's mind, yeah it is a 'Mental conflict', just that The Sentry 'aspect' is always depicted as the more powerful application of the powers Robert Reynolds obtained.But more to the point, The Sentry/Void powers blur the lines between mental and physical in that they establish a form of matter manipulation/reality warp, as being the very essence of their power. So when Sentry threw Void into the sun, that conflict could have happened both in Robert's mind and hovering above the sun in 616 MU. There just isn't a clear division between the two planes.
What was evidenced by The Sentry's fight with Hulk though was that The Sentry felt relief at having a target, an object to hit out at without remorse, guilt, regret, fear or any rebuke ... The Hulk was the bad guy that needed to be put down, he was the drunk sheriff with an itchy trigger-finger just yearning for something to blast away at. They made a perfect battle and The Sentry let loose wholeheartedly, giddily and with genuine gratitude towards Hulk for the opportunity.
This is more than he's ever done against The Void or even allowed The Void to do against anyone. He literally tapped out, shot his load and with a dizzy head went out for the count.
It wasn't the smartest use of his powers, but it was a full use of his "a million exploding suns", against a foe whom he fully expected to be able to withstand it.
Well, that's a lot of rambling I've done there 😐 I just wanted to flesh out my thinking on The Sentry - Hulk fight and how that fits into The Sentry/Void dynamic.
Originally posted by janus77Void seems to be portrayed as overall more powerful to me.
Inasmuch as The Void is a manifestation of Robert Reynold's mind, yeah it is a 'Mental conflict', just that The Sentry 'aspect' is always depicted as the more powerful application of the powers Robert Reynolds obtained.
Originally posted by janus77I do think it happened in the real world but Void wasn't tapping out because Sentry overpowered him with a dizzying conflagration of power. Void was begging Sentry not to make the conscious decision to leave him behind.
But more to the point, The Sentry/Void powers blur the lines between mental and physical in that they establish a form of matter manipulation/reality warp, as being the very essence of their power. So when Sentry threw Void into the sun, that conflict could have happened both in Robert's mind and hovering above the sun in 616 MU. There just isn't a clear division between the two planes.
I agree with that but, that's the thing though. Void is only as 'powerful' as the mindset behind him. It's like being ambivalent about something. You see pros and cons, but once something spins you in one-direction the cons seem to diminish and you can act.
If Robert Reynolds is basically a matter-manipulator/reality warper, then his power's extent is dependent upon the resoluteness of his own will. Sentry is the more resolute expression, on the whole, so is capable of overcoming (and, in this sense, overpowering too) The Void.
Basically rejecting The Void mindset, is the same as overpowering it, for Sentry, imo.
Originally posted by janus77It wasn't the smartest use of his powers, but it was a full use of his "a million exploding suns", against a foe whom he fully expected to be able to withstand it.
this is farrrr from true...because he is seen far more powerful in DA....it would be accurate to say he went all out with the power he thought he had at the time.
Originally posted by carver9Not really. The Void can easily just rearrange his molecules. The Void can win this with minimal effort while the Hulk can just punch him really hard.
The same tactic that worked on Savage Hulk that Sentry used against him didn't work on WWH. It's debatable if Void could break WBH bones let alone hold him long enough to do so. It's not debatable if Hulk could overpower him though.
In the beginning Sentry blitzed Hulk with hits that was leveling entire city blocks. Then Sentry bullrushed Hulk which caused him to get punched in the face. Hulk then hits him 2 more Times (Sentry allowed it just like Hulk allowed it during the beginning of the match). Sentry then hits him with another attack that levels a city block. Sentry then hits Hulk with his tornado type power and Hulk jumps up to fight Sentry and this happens...
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/wwh021.jpg
Sentry got in the most attacks along with attacking him with tornado, planet destroying energy.
Originally posted by carver9
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/wwh021.jpgSentry got in the most attacks along with attacking him with tornado, planet destroying energy.
Those aren't hits, that's just Sentry putting his hand near Hulks head and letting him get a dose of energy.
Which is nothing compared to what Dark Avengers and Siege Sentry is capable of.
