Originally posted by Galan007
Zoom.As fast as S1M might be, he still cannot move at superluminal velocities instantaneously, as Zoom can.
Originally posted by iceman24567Only reason I say 1 Mil has a good chance is because Zoom time dickery doesn't work so well when depowered Supes punches his way through time.
1 million is mostly hype Hulk and Zoom are hyped but have decent feats to support said hype
Re: WBH vs Zoom vs Superman 1M!!!1!
Originally posted by leonidas
this is it folks, the [b]ULTIMATE KMC SHOWDOWN!!!!! who of these 3 kmc unbeatables is left standing when the smoke from the smoldering cosmos settles.... [/B]
"Speed kills", "The pimp-hand of Thanos" and "Mjolnir deflects it back a trillion fold over!"?
Originally posted by JakeTheBankThough as of late Zoom and Flash have more and more been seen as true equals untouchable by anyone else in the speed department. At least Barry and Zoom are.
Zoom is touted more so than Flash is by far. Thanos really only has maybe three really vocal supporters. Thor isn't really wanked, imo, not in compared to the relatively featless wonder that is Superman 1 Million or Zoom.
The fact that it took Bart merging with the entire gawd damn speed force just to match Zoom's speed speaks volumes concerning the 'normal' level he operates at.
That being said: in some cases Zoom is certainly hyped to lulz-worthy levels--but a lot of the time, his hype is warranted imo. Unlike many other characters, Zoom actually has the feats to back up said hype.
Originally posted by Galan007But in Rebirth and Flashpoint Barry and him seemed pretty equal especially towards the end of each.
The fact that it took Bart merging with the entire gawd damn speed force just to match Zoom's speed speaks volumes concerning the 'normal' level he operates at.That being said: in some cases Zoom is certainly hyped to lulz-worthy levels--but a lot of the time, his hype is warranted imo. Unlike many other characters, Zoom actually has the feats to back up said hype.
Originally posted by Galan007Thrawne is now capable of moving through time at will as is Barry. As far as I'm aware Zolomon is still limited to one direction and can only slow down time so much. However I will say I wish that Zoom and Barry had a showdown in Flashpoint to settle the matter once and for all. Besides Eobred is now outside of the effects of time. Not sure how Zoom's slowing down time around him would effect him but I really don't think it would do much since Eobred stated that he was no longer affected by time. Also as of the end of Flashpoint Barry remembered the alternate timeline, which going by Eobred's explanation for being removed from time this should apply to Barry as well. It essentially neuters the threat from Zolomon if taken literally as his ability is based on slowing down the time of others to which Barry is now immune/implied to be.
In terms of speed, I wouldn't.
Originally posted by Uriel005Zolomon has traveled back in time under his own power.
Thrawne is now capable of moving through time at will as is Barry. As far as I'm aware Zolomon is still limited to one direction and can only slow down time so much. However I will say I wish that Zoom and Barry had a showdown in Flashpoint to settle the matter once and for all. Besides Eobred is now outside of the effects of time. Not sure how Zoom's slowing down time around him would effect him but I really don't think it would do much since Eobred stated that he was no longer affected by time. Also as of the end of Flashpoint Barry remembered the alternate timeline, which going by Eobred's explanation for being removed from time this should apply to Barry as well. It essentially neuters the threat from Zolomon if taken literally as his ability is based on slowing down the time of others to which Barry is now immune/implied to be.
Originally posted by Galan007Now it's been a couple years I suppose, but. . . iirc, Bart smashed him like 3 or 4 panels and was never really threatened at all?
The fact that it took Bart merging with the entire gawd damn speed force just to match Zoom's speed speaks volumes concerning the 'normal' level he operates at
Originally posted by MindsetExactly.
Zolomon has traveled back in time under his own power.
Originally posted by JuntaiActually the battle between them seemed pretty equal until a good amount of CIS was introduced on Zoom's end:
Now it's been a couple years I suppose, but. . . iirc, Bart smashed him like 3 or 4 panels and was never really threatened at all?
