Originally posted by Mindset
How do you rate IF?
Without his Chi, he's a basic street leveler in my opinion. Since he has it though, he seems to be able to put down some characters that would seem way out of his league.
He's bad ass, but I just cant ever see him holding his own against somebody like Ronan. Heck, I dont know. Gamora has more low showings than high, so I guess Danny stands a chance.
Originally posted by tkitna
Why do you think this? I'm not saying either way, i'm just curious as to what he's done that sets him at a higher tier then her regarding speed and skill.
Danny has wins and stalemates over top tier martial artists. The only character of any mentionable skill Gamora has fought was Wolverine, and she didn't win.
Speed feats isn't even worth mentioning. Iron Fist as speed feats. Gamora does not.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Danny has wins and stalemates over top tier martial artists. The only character of any mentionable skill Gamora has fought was Wolverine, and she didn't win.
You mean when she got distracted and Wolverine was finally able to land with his claws. All things considered, she was doing pretty good before the distraction.
Again, not arguing because I dont have all of her appearances and definatly dont have all of Dannys, but when a character gets labeled as the 'Most Dangerous Woman In The Universe' and fights people like Ronan, Thanos, and Maxam, its hard for me to give IF the win. Maybe all of Marvels women are losers. Who knows.
Maybe someone can enlighten me, because I know almost nothing about Gamora's martial arts feats, but why is she on the same level as Karate Kid on KMC's Martial Artist Heirarchy ?
Then again, I disagree with the placement of a number of people on that list...
Originally posted by Cogito
Maybe someone can enlighten me, because I know almost nothing about Gamora's martial arts feats, but why is she on the same level as Karate Kid on KMC's Martial Artist Heirarchy ?Then again, I disagree with the placement of a number of people on that list...
Because some people on KMC are insane. Thanos was on the same level as Karate Kid on that skill chart for a long time.
Originally posted by tkitna
You mean when she got distracted and Wolverine was finally able to land with his claws. All things considered, she was doing pretty good before the distraction.Again, not arguing because I dont have all of her appearances and definatly dont have all of Dannys, but when a character gets labeled as the 'Most Dangerous Woman In The Universe' and fights people like Ronan, Thanos, and Maxam, its hard for me to give IF the win. Maybe all of Marvels women are losers. Who knows.
Made me spit up my Pepsi @ "Maybe all Marvels women are losers. Who knows."
Originally posted by tkitna
You mean when she got distracted and Wolverine was finally able to land with his claws. All things considered, she was doing pretty good before the distraction.
Just looked at this little scuffle again and it wasnt anything. I thought they had an extended fight for a few panels on this occasion, but was wrong. Oh well, I still think she would win, but maybe not.
Originally posted by tkitna
Just looked at this little scuffle again and it wasnt anything. I thought they had an extended fight for a few panels on this occasion, but was wrong. Oh well, I still think she would win, but maybe not.
She beats Danny. Her damage soak and strength are too high, and Danny is neither skilled nor fast enough to avoid her indefinitely while peppering her with IFs and she only needs to connect once to win.
Originally posted by cdtm
I don't see how. Ronan's universal weapon messed can challenge Surfer, and utterly messed up Ravenous, a guy who gave Surfer a hard time. And Logans going to stand up against that?If he can do it, Danny can certainly do it, considering Danny is >>> Wolverine. But I can't see Danny doing it.
While I disagree with Sranks view of Wolverine vs Danny. Wolverine's attacks are piercing while Danny's are blunt/energy. Character don't necessarily have the same defense for both. Srank admitted that Danny is faster and better than her so assuming Wolverine is his equal I get why he thinks Wolverine would win and Danny wouldn't
Originally posted by cdtm
I don't see how. Ronan's universal weapon messed can challenge Surfer, and utterly messed up Ravenous, a guy who gave Surfer a hard time. And Logans going to stand up against that?If he can do it, Danny can certainly do it, considering Danny is >>> Wolverine. But I can't see Danny doing it.
Ronan jobbed to Gamora and fought like and idiot. If he fought like that against Wolverine, Logan would give him a fight too. He should have just trapped her indefinitely in a stasis field and beat her unconscious. He used his abilities sparingly and got into a needless slug feast with a character he could have effortlessly beat, for the sake of making the issue entertaining.
Gamora lacks the damage output to overwhelm Wolverine's healing factor before he overloads hers. Wolverine and Danny have different types of damage output. Wolverine has slashing / piercing damage, Danny's is blunt. Gamora has high end durability that will help her tank Iron Fist's IF, but she won't be able to turn Wolverine's claws with her durability, and she doesn't heal fast enough to get sliced up and keep fighting. In GotG it took her weeks to regen her skin after she got burnt up, Wolverine does that in between panels. If you gave Danny a bladed weapon he would likely beat Gamora as well, but as it stands she is too durable for his method of attack.
FYI Wolverine would leave Iron Fist out at the curb for the Garbageman too.
