Ron Paul exposes the neocons.

Originally posted by inimalist
if you aren't a libertarian you are a fascist?

That's definitely a non sequitur question and also an implicit strawman.

The direct answer to your question is in fact this post:

Originally posted by dadudemon
He did not mince any words, at all. He specifically said "completely" against the "American" libertarian movement. One of the major commonalities among multiple groups of libertarians is...liberty of the individual: equality in marriage, equality for the minorities, etc. That's fairly central to what it means to be "libertarian." Sure, they approach those topics differently, but he is explicitly [b]against the movement, completely. Consider how complex the movement is and covers so much type of governing that he is left with..what?...Fascism? That should be scary as **** for any reasonable person. [/B]

If you don't understand how your question is directly answered by all of that post, feel free to ask with a more specific inquiry.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
That's what the whole rhetoric of the movement is built to convince followers of. They're taught that non-Libertarians are fundamentally evil.

That's a strawman to the point I actually made.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Consider "The Harm Principle" which is supposed to be the basis of Libertarian ethics (lol). In reality such a principle is at the center of all ethics and we recognize that people disagree about what is harmful. By calling their system just "The Harm Principle" they're teaching new recruits to believe that other people are arbitrarily malicious. There's a reason American Libertarianism breeds nothing but frothing at the mouth fanatics.

Consider that everything you typed here is also a strawman to the points I presented.

You goofed up with an absurd sweeping statement; that's all there is to this. It happens: move on.

Originally posted by dadudemon
That's a strawman to the point I actually made.

Consider that everything you typed here is also a strawman to the points I presented.

Wow, you just love typing the word strawman. I very literally cannot strawman your argument when I make no reference to your argument whatsoever. Chill out and get over yourself.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Wow, you just love typing the word strawman.

Sure, when it applies. (Which is a majority of the time, as of late, whenever you quote anything I have typed.)

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I very literally cannot strawman your argument when I make no reference to your argument whatsoever. Chill out and get over yourself.

1. Calm down.

2. When you quote a person that is direclty addressing what I said and then proceed to address the content of both of our posts, you then proceed to address me.

3. There's more than one way to apply "strawman" to your post so even here, you fail.

Nice try? But not really. You know what you're doing.

Originally posted by dadudemon
1. Calm down.

Take a chill pill shit sucker.

Originally posted by dadudemon
2. When you quote a person that is direclty addressing what I said and then proceed to address the content of both of our posts, you then proceed to address me.

Except that I literally was not referring to your post in any way so no I wasn't addressing you (unless you consider yourself to be the entire Libertarian movement, which would, of course, be hilarious).

Originally posted by dadudemon
3. There's more than one way to apply "strawman" to your post

Even if there is you still got it wrong and then utterly failed to provide an argument.

Go troll someone else, faggot 🙂

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Take a chill pill shit sucker.

Except that I literally was not referring to your post in any way so no I wasn't addressing you (unless you consider yourself to be the entire Libertarian movement, which would, of course, be hilarious).

Even if there is you still got it wrong and then utterly failed to provide an argument.

Go troll someone else, fa[b]ggot 🙂 [/B]

😬

Dude, you made a sweeping statement that had obvious problems. No need to go this far.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Take a chill pill

Please take your own advice here. We've been at this too long on KMC to devolve into this for any reason, and I really don't want to have to pull a mod card. Just stop with the name-calling and leave the thread or address other posters if you feel trolled or can't keep things civil. Thanks.

Not to fan the flames or anything, but did Sym really just call someone a "******"?

Holy shit, dude.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Not to fan the flames or anything, but did Sym really just call someone a "******"?

Holy shit, dude.

🙁

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Not to fan the flames or anything, but did Sym really just call someone a "******"?

Holy shit, dude.

Don't worry, Libertarians are fine with it and we wouldn't want to go around suggesting their beliefs are somehow less than perfect.

Hahah nice rage bro.

Ron Paul 2012

Originally posted by Mairuzu
Hahah nice rage bro.

Ron Paul 2012

No rage, I just think its fundamentally disgusting that people like you are allowed to live.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
No rage, I just think its fundamentally disgusting that people like you are allowed to live.

Is that a quote from Hitler? 😕

No, I'm paraphrasing Ron Paul (and suggesting public policy).

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
No rage, I just think its fundamentally disgusting that people like you are allowed to live.

Lol rage on bro stoned

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
No, I'm paraphrasing Ron Paul (and suggesting public policy).

I don't think quoting a misrepresented quote counts as a quote.

I like the new Sym. He can be our new Zeal Ex..

Replace a brain with a foot?

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
I like the new Sym. He can be our new Zeal Ex..

Not going balls-deep for the "Ron Paul savior of America" rhetoric is no where near being like Zeal's "Liberals are a cancer, Conservatives lost their spine. Jews cause all the problems. Kill the Jews!"