What are the Roots of Prejudice?

Started by Omega Vision4 pages

I'm sure ON will correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that prejudice is simply a subset of bias, which is hardwired into humans.

It was my epistemology professor who said (and he was quoting an epistemologist whose name I can't remember) that without biases (including prejudice) we wouldn't be able to function because of the epistemic chaos that would result. It also ties into Hume's critique of Induction.

Ignorance leads to prejudice

Prejudice leads to fear.
Fear lead to anger.
Anger leads to hate.
Hate leads to ig'nance.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I'm sure ON will correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that prejudice is simply a subset of bias, which is hardwired into humans.

Subset of bias? Bias and prejudice are synonymous, so this categorization doesn't explain anything.

I've always thought of prejudice as a subconscious survival tactic stemming from correlation between an object and your experiences with said object.

For instance. If you've only encountered what you experience to be maladjusted canines, then you might associate canines with malice, and stay away from them.

The root is Astner.

Originally posted by Astner
Bias and prejudice are synonymous
Not always. And not often.

Originally posted by Astner
Subset of bias? Bias and prejudice are synonymous,

They're only synonymous if you look at them from a stripped-down Dictionary.com perspective. Their connotations are very different. Accusing someone of bias isn't nearly as bad as accusing them of prejudice.

Yeah, silly for using the Oxford dictionary and thesaurus.

No really, what's the difference? Because as far as I'm concerned you're wrong. I'm expecting sources.

at least in psych, the terms aren't seriously differentiated.

Its used more like prejudice is a specifically negative and generally values-based type of bias. All A are B not all B are A sort of thing.

Not synonyms though, no...

Bias can be enonciated in a positive way while prejudice is an absence as far as I can tell. If I only drink green tea because that's the way I do everyday, my experience comes from a positive perspective, I actually have an object of experience. You normally have a prejudice against things, which means you're devaluating them based on a subset of factors that aren't directly dependant on them. If your prejudice ends up adding enough on itself to become a fully fledged experience then it becomes a bias.

Prejudice is seen as something very negative partially because it comes from a subset of faulty expectatives which cannot be backed up by proper experience. Bias are barely better, because they root for partial experience instead of straight theoretical comparision.

That's the difference I get from the context in which the language is often applied, of course my word isn't necessarily true, as I'm not a native language speaker.

Originally posted by Astner
I'm expecting sources.

It's that difficult, huh?

which source would you expect to contrast semantic use of the terms?

like, you are suggesting anything that is a bias is also a prejudice? are you saying there is a prejudice against things you aren't biased toward or are you suggesting prejudice and preference are semantically indistinct?

Originally posted by Oliver North
which source would you expect to contrast semantic use of the terms?

I was assuming that you actually based your argument on a source you could reference. Well, maybe you can find something over at Encyclopedia Britannica. Good luck with that.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/prejudice?s=t


prej·u·dice

noun
1. an unfavorable opinion or feeling formed beforehand or without knowledge, thought, or reason.
2. any preconceived opinion or feeling, either favorable or unfavorable.
3. unreasonable feelings, opinions, or attitudes, especially of a hostile nature, regarding a racial, religious, or national group.
4. such attitudes considered collectively: The war against prejudice is never-ending.
5. damage or injury; detriment: a law that operated to the prejudice of the majority.

verb
6. to affect with a prejudice, either favorable or unfavorable: His honesty and sincerity prejudiced us in his favor.

So, in some, but not most, uses, prejudice can mean favorable bias, though not in most common usage.

http://thesaurus.com/browse/prejudice?__utma=1.189170407.1355158293.1355158293.1355158293.1&__utmb=1.5.9.1355158455019&__utmc=1&__utmx=-&__utmz=1.1355158293.1.1.utmcsr=google|utmccn=%28organic%29|utmcmd=organic|utmctr=%28not%20provided%29&__utmv=-&__utmk=168696737

prejudice

Definition: belief without basis, information; intolerance

Synonyms: ageism, animosity, antipathy, apartheid, aversion, bad opinion, bias, bigotry, chauvinism, contemptuousness, detriment, discrimination, disgust, dislike, displeasure, disrelish, enmity, foregone conclusion, illiberality, injustice, jaundiced eye, mindset, misjudgment, narrow-mindedness, one-sidedness, partiality, pique, preconceived notion, preconception, prejudgment, prepossession, racism, repugnance, revulsion, sexism, slant, spleen, tilt, twist, umbrage, unfairness, warp, xenophobia

Notes: a person's bias is based on facts, but prejudice occurs without a person knowing or examining the facts

[emphasis added]

like, does that work? Settled? semantics=done?

Originally posted by Astner
I was assuming that you actually based your argument on a source you could reference. Well, maybe you can find something over at Encyclopedia Britannica. Good luck with that.

omg so cute...

Originally posted by Oliver North
omg so cute...

Let's take another look at what you said.

Originally posted by Oliver North
at least in psych,

So. Let's try this again. Provide me with a credible source that distinguishes bias from prejudice as far as psychological terminology is concerned.

Because as far as semantics are concerned, there's nothing to argue. Using an open source like Reference.com to counter the validity of the Oxford dictionary and thesaurus as far as the English language is concerned is ridiculous.

Originally posted by Oliver North
omg so cute...

It made me lol, for sure. This guy... 😆

He really seems to have trouble with connotation and semantics.

Originally posted by Astner
So. Let's try this again. Provide me with a credible source that distinguishes bias from prejudice as far as psychological terminology is concerned.

I said they wouldn't distinguish it...

a couple quick pubmed searches will reveal to you that "prejudice" is used as a subset of "bias" to talk about negative evaluations, though I can't imagine anyone has taken the time to fundamentally and empirically differentiate the two things.

My justification for my semantic choices would be ease of communication and common usage. I imagine you would have a much more difficult time communicating that you liked something using the term "prejudice", regardless of its semantic correctness.

Originally posted by Oliver North
a couple quick pubmed searches will reveal to you that "prejudice" is used as a subset of "bias" to talk about negative evaluations, though I can't imagine anyone has taken the time to fundamentally and empirically differentiate the two things.

As I suspected. Concession accepted.