Challenge vs What you think

Started by carver92 pages
Originally posted by Uriel005
Hardness of a material just means it won't snap on impact/wear away. It has nothing to do with cutting ability. Cutting ability comes down to force exerted+ the sharpness of the blade.

The material was stated more than once as being capable of ripping through atoms. Some of the most durable beings in MU has been cut by it.

Originally posted by carver9
The material was stated more than once as being capable of ripping through atoms. Some of the most durable beings in MU has been cut by it.
I was just about to say something like that lol

Originally posted by carver9
By the way, Binary gathered all of her energy by the time she faced Gladiator.

Gladiator hit by a blast that was capable of destroying half of the solar system and he tanked it.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/267/wtfshipmh5.jpg/

He was still hurt. Not technically tanking.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
By no stretch of the imagination is Gladiator the best herald or above all herald level beings. It's not even a remotely realistic notion.

If we want to use Carver's line of "reasoning", he's closer to Abstract than Skyfather.

Originally posted by Uriel005
Using Carver's line of reasoning Superman, Superboy Prime and the Flash are all abstract considering that the've fought the likes of Mandrakk, COIE Anti-Monitor, Future Mordru, Monarch who had so much power just a containment breach destroyed a universe let alone him actively using the energy, Prime trashed Mxy in a PIS feat but I suppose under Carver that would be allowed, the host of other beings Supes has crushed, Primes feat of fighting off the entirety of the Lantern Legion, Justice League, hosts of 31st century heroes and villains.

Is decided then! Using Carver's line of reasoning, Thor is Sub to low Abstract and Superman, Superboy Prime and Flash are low to mid Abstract beings!!

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Originally posted by carver9
The material was stated more than once as being capable of ripping through atoms. Some of the most durable beings in MU has been cut by it.

When Wolverine was possessed, and he slashed Colossus, was that because he was mystically empowered? Because apart from that time, I have difficulty remembering when else he cut Piotr (you guys probably know better than me).

Otherwise, it means.....Colossus' durability > Gladiator???

When Wolverine stabbed Colossus in the recent satory he was amped physically. But in one of the earlier stories it was mentioned that Colossus skin is no match for Wolverine's claws. And seeing how he cuts through herald-level characters all the time I dont see why he shouldnt be able to slice though Piotr's skin. But as usually it depends on the writer.

Originally posted by leonidas
and i guess you'd better prove BOTH sides. what's binary done to make anyone believe she's mid herald?

Whats even more weird is carver thinks Glads should be pushed beyond high herald because of the feat. dontgetit

Originally posted by -Pr-
He was still hurt. Not technically tanking.
I'm not sure that the idea of not being hurt applies to tanking for most people. If he wasn't hurt that would be no-selling. Tanking means withstanding well in my book.

^ that's true. the actual vehicle was for crossing "no man's land" during trench warfare shrugging off weapons fire when nothing else could, so basically taking damage and still advancing is the truest meaning of tanking.

Superman is the best herald

Superman is above herald level

Superman has knocked out Mon-el, Lobo, Despero in a single hit. That doesn't mean he is above herald level. Thor, superman and silver surfer are the three pinnacles of herald level. I would place gladiator at mid high herald level.