Chronicle

Originally posted by Myth
I completely disagree with this. I've even stated a specific scene in which they easily could have.

The hospital scene?
But that was too far into the story & too late for character redemption.
It was a pinnacle scene that finally threw Andrew over the edge.

Name another movie where a hand-held camera was used & the characters actually had depth to their personalities?

I've never used to the word redeem, so I don't know why people are getting stuck on that word. I just wish he was a more believable character. It is very possible for him to be hate-able and yet have moments where he is isn't a complete tool-bag. It not only would add depth to the dad's character, but would add depth to Andrew's because then we would see that the bad out weighs the good in his eyes, rather than needing to be bluntly knocked over the head to understand there was abuse. To me, subtlety can go a long way, and the movie just completely lacked all forms of subtlety, particularly regarding the characters. It is fine if you prefer the movie to not have any of these elements, but it is certainly not impossible for them to be included.

As for the name another hand held camera style movie, why does that matter? There is a limited number of hand held style movies out there, and I think it would do them good to branch out. I've enjoyed several of the films in this genre, but none of them have been great.

Chronicle was an hour & twenty four minutes long.
A relatively short film to focus on a sub-character's personal complexities.

I'm simply saying because of the hand-held approach, Andrew's character would've had to plant "spy cameras" all over his household in order to catch any more "depth" or good sides to his father.

We knew his father cared/loved his sick wife & that was enough of a good trait to give him substance. But turning to the bottle because he was un-employed & dealing with mounting medical bills all led him to easily blame someone else than consider himself a loser.

saw it. liked it.

lol @ the people complaining about the shaky cam, there were probably 5 total minutes of shaky cam in the entire movie, the rest was surprisingly focused.

One thing that bugged me just a little was

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that they went black dude dies first trope on us. I thought Steve was a much more charismatic character than Matt. Though, i didn't mind it all that much considering it made more sense for the cousins to face off in the end.

question:

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did anyone else think Steve was more powerful than Andrew? I think so because Steve was the first to move something on a large scale and was the first to figure out how to fly. I think Steve vs Andrew would have been more epic.

as for the philosphical stuff some people were complaining about; i don't get where you were coming from. Only one character was into it (Matt) and it was kind of a running joke that everyone else was also in on... even the chick Matt was into was mocking him about it. So no, i don't think the movie was "trying to be too philosophical".

Concerning the dad, it was a 90 minute movie! Not even sure it was that long; for them to get into this whole side story about how complex the dad is, would have made no sense in the context of the movie. More to the point, why would it be so unbelievable that he had no redeeming qualities? Actually, that's not even accurate! The guy was clearly distraught over losing his wife... he simply hated his son for whatever reason and blamed all his problems (including missing his wife's final moments) on him.

anyhow, i give it a strong 8 overall.

Oh and i heard rumors

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that they were already thinking sequel... how? two of the three are dead! O_O I guess they'd have to focus it all on Matt; perhaps have him run into other people with powers who have already come in contact with that thing before this movie took place. There's definitely potential for a sequel.

I'm spent discussing whether they could add depth or not. As said earlier, lets agree to disagree.

On the last thing that marwash22 said, they wouldn't even need the same characters, just a similar premise.

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They could show the military finding the Krypton looking rock thing and show what happens if some military guys who are corrupt with power get their hands on the telekinesis powers. We already know that they were sealing off the area and they likely were intrigued with all the superpower shit they saw displayed by Andrew and Matt.

Sequel potenial....how about Matt coming back with an army of floating Buddhist monks.

OMMM-MYGOD!

Originally posted by marwash22
One thing that bugged me just a little was

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that they went black dude dies first trope on us. I thought Steve was a much more charismatic character than Matt. Though, i didn't mind it all that much considering it made more sense for the cousins to face off in the end.

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And that's why Steve had to die. It symbolized the breaking of the bond between the two cousins. It also would have been slightly less believable and sped the movie up if Andrew killed his cousin and had to fight someone who was just a friend. That would make the end fight exponentially shorter because Steve wouldn't hesitate to kill Andrew because they were only just friends. Matt, on the other hand, didn't want to kill his cousin. At least, that's how I interpreted it.

Originally posted by marwash22
question:

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did anyone else think Steve was more powerful than Andrew? I think so because Steve was the first to move something on a large scale and was the first to figure out how to fly. I think Steve vs Andrew would have been more epic.

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I kinda believe that they were sorta equal. Steve simply showed raw power while Andrew demonstrated finesse in the use of his power. Steve himself said something along the lines of how he couldn't focus and concentrate like Andrew could and that's why he couldn't do the things his friend did. I may be wrong but I only saw the movie once. It was also shown that Andrew practiced on the regular while Matt and Steve more so played with their abilities. So they probably had the same level of power but just utilized it in different ways.

Originally posted by marwash22
as for the philosphical stuff some people were complaining about; i don't get where you were coming from. Only one character was into it (Matt) and it was kind of a running joke that everyone else was also in on... even the chick Matt was into was mocking him about it. So no, i don't think the movie was "trying to be too philosophical".

And I'd definitely go see a sequel of this movie 😎

I sw it and I enjoyed it 🙂 though I really didn't dig the whole

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Black dude dying first thing. I also think they should've developed the weather manipulation thing that Andrew had when Steve died. C'mon Lightning makes everything cool

I would see a sequel to this as well.

That'd probably be in a sequel, wakka......

Well

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Something like that would've at least added to the scene of the final fight.

Err...I find it funny how this was made on a considerably low budget yet was really enjoyable.

It was barely a fight, lol. More like a final display....

It was a scuffle between two people with superpowers. Even if it was a tad unimpressive it was still a fight...

Not reading all of this I just want someone to answer my question: Is this worth watching ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Not reading all of this I just want someone to answer my question: Is this worth watching ?

Yes it is. Even if you end up not liking it, it's still worth a watch at least.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
It was a scuffle between two people with superpowers. Even if it was a tad unimpressive it was still a fight...

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Originally posted by marwash22
question:

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did anyone else think Steve was more powerful than Andrew? I think so because Steve was the first to move something on a large scale and was the first to figure out how to fly. I think Steve vs Andrew would have been more epic.

They directly addressed that in the film.

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It was stated, shortly after he moved the car or before that Steven was more brute force and Andrew had more finesse and precisions. That was partially established with the lego stacking vs. the car moving.

Originally posted by marwash22
as for the philosphical stuff some people were complaining about; i don't get where you were coming from. Only one character was into it (Matt) and it was kind of a running joke that everyone else was also in on... even the chick Matt was into was mocking him about it. So no, i don't think the movie was "trying to be too philosophical".

Indeed. It was more of a tool he was using to sound cool and

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get with a chick

Originally posted by marwash22
Concerning the dad, it was a 90 minute movie! Not even sure it was that long; for them to get into this whole side story about how complex the dad is, would have made no sense in the context of the movie. More to the point, why would it be so unbelievable that he had no redeeming qualities? Actually, that's not even accurate! The guy was clearly distraught over losing his wife... he simply hated his son for whatever reason and blamed all his problems (including missing his wife's final moments) on him.

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I don't understand Myth's need for the dad to experience a positive change. The father already had the positive attributes about him: he was head over heels for the mother of that family. We saw his father arguing, furiously, with the insurance company trying to get medicine for the mother. He also took care of the mother, frequently, because the father did remark that the single time he left the mother's side, she died (she most likely suffocated due to her shallow breathing problems...remember when Andrew turned his mother and she could start breathing again? That was what sh*t was about). So the father had the "blame the child" problem. Common in abusive homes with messed up parents: they sometimes have a "whipping boy" due to a "crazy people" perspective on what the child is doing: http://psychology.chass.ncsu.edu/pss/pdf/parent%20cluster%20paper.pdf

Originally posted by marwash22
anyhow, i give it a strong 8 overall.

I do, as well. I give it a weak, 8, however.

Originally posted by marwash22
Oh and i heard rumors

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that they were already thinking sequel... how? two of the three are dead! O_O I guess they'd have to focus it all on Matt; perhaps have him run into other people with powers who have already come in contact with that thing before this movie took place. There's definitely potential for a sequel.

I agree.

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sequel dis birch! I think there's still hope that Andrew is still alive. Last time I checked, being impaled, right down the center of your guts below the ribs, just destroys your mobility below the waste, may cause internal bleeding (but the poles can sometimes stop the bleeding...with a very nice seal, surprisingly) and will damage some of your small intestines. It's a devastating wound but you can survive from it with immediate medical care...and he was surrounded by police so it is not too crazy to assume that Andrew could receive immediate medical care. So there's still room for a wheel-chair bound Andrew...well, an Andrew that lost his leg's mobility...he could still fly, though.

Also, they could find out what the creature was inside of the crystal in the cave. They could take the movie an entirely different direction, if they wanted to.

hi does anyone know where I can download this movie.....online..I know its online now..but I cant find a link for it that doesnt allow me to download additional stuff.

Originally posted by Jack Angel
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That is annoying as shit to read, but this is the explanation that you missed:

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During the fork scene, they were talking about how to make a force field by imagining there is one there. Therefore, they are only protected when consciously making a force field. When Andrew dies, he wasn't expecting the spear from his back, so I think his guard was down.

Originally posted by dadudemon
They directly addressed that in the film.

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It was stated, shortly after he moved the car or before that Steven was more brute force and Andrew had more finesse and precisions. That was partially established with the lego stacking vs. the car moving.

Originally posted by dadudemon

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sequel dis birch! I think there's still hope that Andrew is still alive. Last time I checked, being impaled, right down the center of your guts below the ribs, just destroys your mobility below the waste, may cause internal bleeding (but the poles can sometimes stop the bleeding...with a very nice seal, surprisingly) and will damage some of your small intestines. It's a devastating wound but you can survive from it with immediate medical care...and he was surrounded by police so it is not too crazy to assume that Andrew could receive immediate medical care. So there's still room for a wheel-chair bound Andrew...well, an Andrew that lost his leg's mobility...he could still fly, though.

Also, they could find out what the creature was inside of the crystal in the cave. They could take the movie an entirely different direction, if they wanted to.