Kuurth vs WarHulk

Started by The Sorrow2 pages

Originally posted by leonidas
meh, i think classic juggs granted an asgardian hammer sorta speaks for itself. it's like some saying hulk given a hammer was somehow weaker.

it's less about buying into the hype and more about common sense to me. 😬 the xmen have done considerably better in the past against classic juggs. pretty well every x-man who's been an x-man tried and failed to do..... ANYTHING to kurrth. i def think kurrth (with both enchantments)>>classic juggs.

war also did something wwh didn't--he stopped juggs and had the weaponry to actually kill him. war>wwh imo.


Wasn't Juggernaut depowered when he received the hammer? I remember him being badly hurt by Thor's lightning and struggling with Luke Cage prior to FI which would have never happened to classic Juggs.

The X-Men have never really had the force to hurt him though outside of telepathy so that's not really different from past encounters.
Kuurth is definitely >classic Juggernaut but he would need to be to take on War. He has the ability to amp his strength at will to levels where he can almost one-shot classic Juggs aswell as stop his momentum, durability to be unaffected by his punches, a celestial sword which overloaded Absorbing Man (correct if i'm wrong but even Mjolnir hasn't done this) and had the threat of cleaving Juggernauts head off. That's a very big claim to say Kuurth could overcome War considering the threat he poses.

Also to your point about Hulk, the War showing was more impressive than in WWH but both stopped his momentum in different ways, not to forget Green Scar was holding back while War was out for the kill.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
Wasn't Juggernaut depowered when he received the hammer? I remember him being badly hurt by Thor's lightning and struggling with Luke Cage prior to FI which would have never happened to classic Juggs.

The X-Men have never really had the force to hurt him though outside of telepathy so that's not really different from past encounters.
Kuurth is definitely >classic Juggernaut but he would need to be to take on War. He has the ability to amp his strength at will to levels where he can almost one-shot classic Juggs aswell as stop his momentum, durability to be unaffected by his punches, a celestial sword which overloaded Absorbing Man (correct if i'm wrong but even Mjolnir hasn't done this) and had the threat of cleaving Juggernauts head off. That's a very big claim to say Kuurth could overcome War considering the threat he poses.

Also to your point about Hulk, the War showing was more impressive than in WWH but both stopped his momentum in different ways, not to forget Green Scar was holding back while War was out for the kill.

I agreed with your post almost til the end. WW Hulk stopped Juggernaut a lot faster than War did. War was plowed, whereas WW Hulk wasn't. It's your call.

Originally posted by Stoic
I agreed with your post almost til the end. WW Hulk stopped Juggernaut a lot faster than War did. War was plowed, whereas WW Hulk wasn't. It's your call.

Yeah you could look at it that way, Green Scar stopped Juggernaut from gaining any momentum which is still very impressive but I meant War's whole showing in general was better. Juggernaut didn't seem a threat to War whereas the WWH fight looked more of a contest.

Once War started amping himself he was able to stop Cain even though he had built up a lot of momentum, who has ever done that before? Just look what happened to Kuurth in UX #543 when he was put in the same situation, he was nothing but roadkill lol.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
Wasn't Juggernaut depowered when he received the hammer? I remember him being badly hurt by Thor's lightning and struggling with Luke Cage prior to FI which would have never happened to classic Juggs.

i thought he was back at classic levels. pretty sure far itself the worthy showed that, but i could be wrong....

The X-Men have never really had the force to hurt him though outside of telepathy so that's not really different from past encounters.

but they've always found a way to beat him. they could even slow him down this time. and they tried really, really hard....

Kuurth is definitely >classic Juggernaut but he would need to be to take on War. He has the ability to amp his strength at will to levels where he can almost one-shot classic Juggs aswell as stop his momentum, durability to be unaffected by his punches, a celestial sword which overloaded Absorbing Man (correct if i'm wrong but even Mjolnir hasn't done this) and had the threat of cleaving Juggernauts head off. That's a very big claim to say Kuurth could overcome War considering the threat he poses.

😂

i DID say kurrth>war, didn't i. this whole thing has been a misunderstanding. i misread the topic and thought it was wwh, not WAR! i'm an idiot. 😮

i agree with you--war SHOULD win. celestial sword SHOULD be greater than the hammer. the hammer also had cyttorak's enchantment, but war already overcame that. i could quite literally see war cleaving the hammer and breaking it as hulk did. 😬

[/quote]Also to your point about Hulk, the War showing was more impressive than in WWH but both stopped his momentum in different ways, not to forget Green Scar was holding back while War was out for the kill. [/B][/QUOTE]

but even more to the point--hulk showed no indication whatsoever of being able to actually HARM juggs and had to resort to the usual bfr. war otoh was going to KILL him. something, hulk, imo, could never do.

so, yeah. i'm an idiot, and we agree. 🙂

Originally posted by The Sorrow
Wasn't Juggernaut depowered when he received the hammer? I remember him being badly hurt by Thor's lightning and struggling with Luke Cage prior to FI which would have never happened to classic Juggs.

The X-Men have never really had the force to hurt him though outside of telepathy so that's not really different from past encounters.
Kuurth is definitely >classic Juggernaut but he would need to be to take on War. He has the ability to amp his strength at will to levels where he can almost one-shot classic Juggs aswell as stop his momentum, durability to be unaffected by his punches, a celestial sword which overloaded Absorbing Man (correct if i'm wrong but even Mjolnir hasn't done this) and had the threat of cleaving Juggernauts head off. That's a very big claim to say Kuurth could overcome War considering the threat he poses.

Also to your point about Hulk, the War showing was more impressive than in WWH but both stopped his momentum in different ways, not to forget Green Scar was holding back while War was out for the kill.

You forgot the part where he got his leg broken/snapped by King Hyperion and was punched to a bloody pulp by King Hype as well. He wasn't close to his classic levels.

If anyone thinks this is classic Juggernaut with the hammer then...

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg102/Knowsbleed33/Battle/Thunderbolts2/Thunderbolts153014.jpg
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg102/Knowsbleed33/Battle/Thunderbolts2/Thunderbolts153015.jpg
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg102/Knowsbleed33/Battle/Thunderbolts2/Thunderbolts153016.jpg
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg102/Knowsbleed33/Battle/Thunderbolts2/Thunderbolts153018.jpg
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg102/Knowsbleed33/Battle/Thunderbolts2/Thunderbolts153019.jpg
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg102/Knowsbleed33/Battle/Thunderbolts2/Thunderbolts153020.jpg

😂 cool

I agree that Hulk wouldn't be able to kill Juggernaut either but he can KO him which would still be a win.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
😂 cool

I agree that Hulk wouldn't be able to kill Juggernaut either but he can KO him which would still be a win.

well, we'll disagree there. no way i see hulk ko'ing classic juggs. oh well, at least we made some progress. 😂

Originally posted by The Sorrow
😂 cool

I agree that Hulk wouldn't be able to kill Juggernaut either but he can KO him which would still be a win.

Can FP Kuurth Be KO by brute strenght? can Hulk KO Classice Juggernaut?

Jugs didn't have the full power of the gem when he got the hammer. He was a watered down juggernaut.

Originally posted by FanBoy4
Can FP Kuurth Be KO by brute strenght? can Hulk KO Classice Juggernaut?

IMO yes, I don't see why it wouldn't be possible. Classic Juggernaut was one shotted by Onslaught and Hulk defeated Onslaught so yes he can.