Kratos vs Dante best 2/3

Originally posted by BloodRain
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[QUOTE=]So like I said, either a time-stop, or a time-slowdown where Light is moving at a crawl.

Not sure what the amulet has to do with this.. unless you mean the thing he does after breaking the crystal?

And what DP said reminded me of something; If the first one is different to the second, then it can't be a time-stop nor a time-slowdown. Can't be a time-stop as the light energy was moving in slow motion compared to its real speed [plus if nothing could move then the crystal wouldnt break either], meaning its a slow-mo effect. Though it can't really be that either as the pillars don't move at all, contradicting itself.

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I wasn't talking about the amulet though. I was talking about the time effect in place when Kratos first arrived.

It's really only different in that one is permanent and induced by that crystal, while the other is temporary and induced by the amulet. As far as I can tell, the time-stop/slowdown is the same for both, but because the latter isn't permanent, once Kratos tries to move a pillar or lever, the time-effect just vanishes for whatever reason, likely gameplay ones.

First part was to Spy.

Thinking about it it has to be the same as both (and all) times its the Stature of Fates that's actually effecting time, not the Amulet or the crystals. The bells, pillars and light-energy still moving says its a slow-down, means its both a set slow-down and something thats protected by the Sisters Amulet given that its power is to "allow [Kratos] to move swiftly through time while all around [him] slows."

Edit: The big Titans; 442m or 500m tall?

Originally posted by BloodRain
First part was to Spy.

Thinking about it it has to be the same as both (and all) times its the Stature of Fates that's actually effecting time, not the Amulet or the crystals. The bells, pillars and light-energy still moving says its a slow-down, means its both a set slow-down and something thats protected by the Sisters Amulet given that its power is to "allow [Kratos] to move swiftly through time while all around [him] slows."

Edit: The big Titans; 442m or 500m tall?

No no. Nothing moves at all when Time is stopped by that Crystal, just that light energy (which I cannot determine is valid or not), and it moves a lot slower than Kratos does.
When he tries to move pillars or bells or to even open a chest/door when he slows/stops time with the Amulet, the Time-effect vanishes. However, since the time-effect in the Temple is permanent, Kratos cannot move anything except the Crystal itself.

490 I think. Are you gonna scale up a human to that height or something?

If the light energy is moving slow during then fast after, its definatly a slow-down.
Maybe its cos its being turned on by the crystal instead of his amulet, but his amulet was made to allow the user to bypass fate time.

Making sure the calc was right, guess Ill get numbers fro 500m too. Forgot to post it x.x

Will check if the light speeds up.
Yeah, Amulet likely gives him even more resistance to Time-f***ery.

Just before breakage. Aye, to fate based time-****ery~

Been too preoccupied to care but where are these titan numbers you guys are coming up with?

there is no size difference among them. 500 meters is the only height given for them.

Technically it is 487. 😛

Last time I checked Im sure Atlas and Cronos were bigger that Gaia and the rest. Even seems that way when Kratos is on them, like the difference between standing on her hand to one of the other two.

Height was vague. The guy said Sears tower, which is 442 tall for the building without the antennas. Extra structures arent /usually/ counted so.. iffy.

No Atlas and Cronos are not bigger than Gaia.

Cronos held up Gaia's severed hand and her hand was just as big as his.

Don't know where the 487 thing came from DP. I've only seen 500 meters stated in print. Which is 1640 feet. Which makes sense since Stig Asmussen in some vid specifically stated Cronos to be over 1600 feet tall.

Even that lava titan, who was never officially called a name in the game (he is supposed to be Perses though), is just as big as Cronos.

If you compare how big Kratos looks next to both of their eye balls.

they said taller than the sears tower btw

Originally posted by CosmicComet
No Atlas and Cronos are not bigger than Gaia.

Cronos held up Gaia's severed hand and her hand was just as big as his.

Don't know where the 487 thing came from DP. I've only seen 500 meters stated in print. Which is 1640 feet. Which makes sense since Stig Asmussen in some vid specifically stated Cronos to be over 1600 feet tall.

Even that lava titan, who was never officially called a name in the game (he is supposed to be Perses though), is just as big as Cronos.

If you compare how big Kratos looks next to both of their eye balls.

they said taller than the sears tower btw

Eh, I only remembered the 1600 feet thing, which is ~ 487 meters. Haven't seen the 500 meters figure.

O.o I only remember him saying Sears. Link to 1600ft or the 500m?

I believe I read it in a gamespy article a few months before the game came out. And the video was at Gametrailers iirc.

Don't really care enough to go looking atm.

But yes, 500 meters was the figure.

In any case I'll use both just to be sure.

Q: Mach 30 crab-horses?

A calc to get a figure on Kratos' strength from his top feat of stopping Cronos' attack. Yes its messy, shut up, I got lazy on the clean up...

TL;DR is at the end~

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Cronos weight-
1. 442m;
= 1,480,639,380 kg
= 1,632,125.54 tons

2. 500m;
= 2,143,347,050.754 kg
= 2,362,635.7 tons

For nothing else but to get a scale of things.

Pandora's Temple weight;
Cronos forearm length
1. = 88m
2. = 100m
[ http://images.wikia.com/villains/images/1/1a/Kronos_11.png
Forearm = 1/5 height ]

[ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHtjKDfaTkE
55 seconds ]

Height is 3x forearm
1. = 264m
2. = 300m

Width is 2x forearm
1. = 176m
2. = 200m

Length 2x forearm
1. = 176m
2. = 200m

Volume as a ellipsoid
1. = 4,271,110,321,067.8433 cm^3
2. = 6,267,477,344,730.001 cm^3

x2.5den rock density;
1. = 10,677,775,802,669.608 g
2. = 15,668,693,361,825.0025 g

1. = 10,677,775,802.608 kg | 1.067e10 kg
1. = 11,770,233 tons | 1.177e7 tons

2. = 15,668,693,361.8250025 kg | 1.566e10 kg
2. = 17,271,777.9 tons | 1.727e7 tons

If you can't tell from above, 1. is if 442m and 2. is if 500m. The Ellipsoid volume was done on an online calculator cuz lazy.

Strength energy/force:
kg * 9.81 = Stationary Newtons

Force the Temple produces:
1. = 104,748,980,623.584 Newtons | 1.047e11 N
2. = 153,709,881,879.503 Newtons | 1.537e11 N

The force in Newtons that the Temple has from just being there. Not needed.

Kratos stopping Cronos' 40,000,000kg hand [rough compared to body] at 1,500m/s []
= 6e10 Newtons

= 5.12e13 Joules

Just a note on the force of the dead weight, without strength backing. Not needed by itself.

Cronos' attack energy/force:
((kg*(speed[+gravity if opposing]))+(persons mass*persons attack speed))

1. = 2,847,210,717,759.845 Newtons | 2.847e12 N
1. = 3.22e14 Joules

2. = 4,121,940,971,543.724 Newtons | = 4.122e12 N
2. = 4.726e14 Joules

In GoW it appears as an ellipsoid, in GoW3 its a cone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1ompKbegok&feature=related
^10:34

Height is 3x forearm, width is 2x fore arm. The volume as a cone is 2,141,769,142,857.1409 cm^3, half the volume of the ellipsoid meaning half the weight.

As a cone:
1. = 1,423,605,358,879.9223 Newtons | 1.423e12 N
1. = 1.61e14 Joules

2. = 2,060,970,485,771.862 Newtons | = 2.060e12 N
2. = 2.363e14 Joules

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TL;DR:
-Cronos can lift 1.177e7-1.727e7 tons.
-Cronos strikes at 4.122e12 Newtons and 472.6 Terajoules.
-This is if Cronos is 500m tall and using an ellipsoid for the mass. Not sure if the cone should be used or not.

All I really needed to know is that Cronos's slaps have considerably more energy than the bomb that hit Nagasaki.

Holy shit.

Seriously, unless I just ****ed up my conversion, Kratos can resist and overpower four ****ing billion tons of force.

I think the Newtons equal 420mil ton force /online converter/ with the joules being at 100 kilotons of TNT.

(Oh yeah, and the unmentioned speed is how fast Cronos moves/crawls with it which is around 260m/s based on what 1m/s movements would be to someone that tall.)

Though all that should be check to see if its right or missing something.

I think your online converter is wrong?

I got 4,122,000,000,000 for the total Newtons when I extended ur Scientific notation nonsense, and since that many Newtons equals that many kilograms, and a ton is nine hundred kilos, divide that by 900 and you get 4,580,000,000 tons. 4.58 billion.

Ohhhh, I was looking for the ton-force not tons alone. Yeah you got it.

dante wins hands down because he is powers are way past kratos powers