Raskta Lsu vs Kao Cen Darach

They fight in the Emperors Throne Room aboard the 1st Death Star. Where Starkiller fought the Emperor.

Since we have only seen Raskta fighting under the influence of Battle Meditation, she will have its effects with her in this fight. I could be persuaded to change this however if theres too much protest and I feel she can indeed be argued without it.

Raskta wins imo.

I think I agree. Although her main feat was in battle meditation, it was also while covering for allies who couldn't manage on their own.

She's not so great in the force, but with sabers she's a beast.

Raskta used battle meditation?

Regardless, it's hard to judge Darach's lightsaber skills as he was only in one cinematic but his saber skills didn't seem incredibly impressive. Raskta, on the other hand, was famous for her incredible bladework. I'd give her a significant edge in sabers... But her defense to force attacks is weak. Raskta wins the majority IMO.

She was amped by it.

Yes, that my take on it. Raskta was an incredibly impressive swordsman, and Kao didn't show any Force powers that I think would tip it in his favor.

Originally posted by ares834
Raskta used battle meditation?

Regardless, it's hard to judge Darach's lightsaber skills as he was only in one cinematic but his saber skills didn't seem incredibly impressive. Raskta, on the other hand, was famous for her incredible bladework. I'd give her a significant edge in sabers... But her defense to force attacks is weak. Raskta wins the majority IMO.

Also, if she is not good at defending against powerful force attacks, then she is done with. Kao is very strong in the Force.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Raskta wins imo.

Originally posted by ares834
Raskta used battle meditation?

Regardless, it's hard to judge Darach's lightsaber skills as he was only in one cinematic but his saber skills didn't seem incredibly impressive. Raskta, on the other hand, was famous for her incredible bladework. I'd give her a significant edge in sabers... But her defense to force attacks is weak. Raskta wins the majority IMO.

Originally posted by Nephthys
She was amped by it.

Yes, that my take on it. Raskta was an incredibly impressive swordsman, and Kao didn't show any Force powers that I think would tip it in his favor.

Can you prove that Raskta can pull Malgus against Kao force moves? This Jedi Masters could hurl large objects at his opponents like missiles. He could also send his opponents packing with his powerful force moves.

Also, if she is not good at defending against powerful force attacks, then she is done with. Kao is very strong in the Force.

Where is he shown to be very strong in the force... The most impressive thing he does is throw that engine and as you claimed in a different thread using the force to lift large objects isn't that impressive...

Every prominent tom, dick, and harry in the post-KOTOR eras win in your opinion. Not surprised.

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Neph always thinks KotOR characters loose...

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Thanks for the laugh.

Regardless, the exact opposite is the problem you have.

His bladework is comparable to the best of PT era in the movies. Watch carefully. Only difference is that Yoda demonstrates more impressive acrobatics and Sidious demonstrates more impressive speed. These two might be better duelists but still open to debate.

Are you serious? I mean really, do you honestly believe this?

Originally posted by ares834
Where is he shown to be very strong in the force... The most impressive thing he does is throw that engine and as you claimed in a different thread using the force to lift large objects isn't that impressive...

He send the Sith Insquisitor packing almost 60 feet away with a powerful blast from point blank range.

He effortlessely blocked Force lightning attacks and redirected them towards his opponents.

He countered Malgus's attack to decapitate Satele from a distance.

He hurled large objects like missiles towards his opponents. Very similar to Yoda and Sidious in the movies.

Lifting the engine is not the only impressive feat of his. He hurled the smaller objects with incredible speed towards Malgus.

Originally posted by ares834
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Neph always thinks KotOR characters loose...

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Thanks for the laugh.

Regardless, the exact opposite is the problem you have.

Originally posted by ares834
Are you serious? I mean really, do you honestly believe this?

Luke already surpassed them. An argument can also be made of Caedus that he is comparable. Bane is also comparable. Then we have Kas'im.

Not shit sherlock.

Legend isn't really intelligent considering that he think "flashier = more skilled".

Thats like telling me a taekwondo competitor is better than a real fighter like Muay thai boxer.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Every prominent tom, dick, and harry in the post-KOTOR eras win in your opinion. Not surprised.

LOL! Not likely, I'm one of the biggest supporters of KotOR characters. I've consistently argued for Kreia and Nihilus, and supported the notion that Bastila is comparable to Kenobi.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Because he failed to stop Malgus? What an idiotic assumption.

Can you prove that Raskta can pull Malgus against Kao force moves? This Jedi Masters could hurl large objects at his opponents like missiles. He could also send his opponents packing with his powerful force moves.

You think thats why I said it? Isn't that an assumption too?

Raskta is extremely fast. She'll dodge whatever is thrown her way, and likely the Force pushes. But even then, the Force pushes aren't going to take her out of the fight.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
He send the Sith Insquisitor packing almost 60 feet away with a powerful blast from point blank range.

Wow impressive... (sarcasm)

He effortlessely blocked Force lightning attacks and redirected them towards his opponents.

With his lightsaber... Raskta blocked Bane's lightning with her lightsaber. And Bane's lightning has actually been shown to be incredibly powerful.

He countered Malgus's attack to decapitate Satele from a distance.

Not sure how a lightsaber throw is some uber force feat...

He hurled large objects like missiles towards his opponents. Very similar to Yoda and Sidious in the movies.

According to you using the force to lift somewhat large objects isn't impressive... Regardless, he wasn't throwing nearly as many as Sidious was doing nor as rapidly.

You think that no one can be even close to Yoda and Sidious in lightsaber combat? With this mentality, you are only fooling yourself.

Luke already surpassed them. An argument can also be made of Caedus that he is comparable. Bane is also comparable. Then we have Kas'im.

Strawman.

Originally posted by Nephthys
LOL! Not likely, I'm one of the biggest supporters of KotOR characters. I've consistently argued for Kreia and Nihilus, and supported the notion that Bastila is comparable to Kenobi.

Originally posted by Nephthys
You think thats why I said it? Isn't that an assumption too?

Raskta is extremely fast. She'll dodge whatever is thrown her way, and likely the Force pushes. But even then, the Force pushes aren't going to take her out of the fight.

Because this moves helps them to disengage if they are not gettring an opening and take advantage of the surroundings to get some leverage.

He'll need a hell of a lot more than leverage. She is his superior in bladework and speed by multitudes.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Your responses to me show otherwise.

Originally posted by Nephthys
He'll need a hell of a lot more than leverage. She is his superior in bladework and speed by multitudes.

Yes, Lsu stood up to Bane. However, Lsu was aided by several other Jedi. And she is weak in applications of the Force.

In comparison, Kao also stood up to two prominent Sith Lords simultaneously on his own and even knocked one out during the duel. Kao is also comparatively much more adept in applications of the Force.

Nothing here proves that Lsu would dominate Kao in combat. On her very lucky day, she might win. However, Kao is more powerful and will handle her in majority of encounters.

Originally posted by ares834
Wow impressive... (sarcasm)

Did Lsu performed a comparable feat?

Originally posted by ares834
With his lightsaber... Raskta blocked Bane's lightning with her lightsaber. And Bane's lightning has actually been shown to be incredibly powerful.

Originally posted by ares834
Not sure how a lightsaber throw is some uber force feat...

Originally posted by ares834
According to you using the force to lift somewhat large objects isn't impressive... Regardless, he wasn't throwing nearly as many as Sidious was doing nor as rapidly.

Originally posted by ares834
Strawman.

Sidious and Yoda aren't the greatest lightsaber duelists in the Star Wars galaxy. Deal with it.

I'll just repost this, so we can all see what Raskta's abilities are:

Raskta Lsu:

'Master Raskta Lsu, an Echani, sat at the controls of her ship. She had the alabaster skin, pure white hair, and silver eyes common to all her species. She was almost as tall as Johun, with the muscles and physique one would expect in a species that valued physical combat as the highest form of art and personal expression. Named in honor of the legendary Echani warrior Raskta Fenni, acclaimed by many to be the greatest duelist of her time, Master Raskta had spent her life honing her martial skills so that she could one day equal, and even surpass, her namesake.

She had achieved the rare and prestigious rank of Jedi Weapons Master. Eschewing all other fields of study and forsaking the development of her other Force talents to focus exclusively on the lightsaber and combat, she had transformed herself into a living weapon.

Now tasked with training apprentices in the forms of lightsaber combat, Raskta had been part of the campaign on Ruusan. Wielding a blue-bladed lightsaber in each hand, and shunning any form of armor, she was a terrifying figure to behold on the battlefield. Johun vividly remembered her carving great swaths of destruction through the heart of the enemy ranks, leaving a litter of bodies in her wake. It was said that, by the end of the war, as many Sith Lords had fallen under her twin blades as had been killed by the thought bomb.'

'Raska's blue blades flickered too quickly for the eye to see, neutralizing her enemy's initial, wild attack then landing half a dozen lethal blows to his chest and abdomen. But instead of toppling, the big man kept coming, never even breaking stride. He would have plowed straight into Raskta, trampling her under his heavy boots, had she not cartwheeled to the side at the last possible instant.

'She seemed to be everywhere at once-in front of Bane, beside him, behind him, circling low, leaping to come in high, deflecting his blade with one of her own then stabbing three quick times in succession at his eyes. The big man's head ducked and bobbed, twisting and turning to avoid her blows as he tried to mount a counteroffensive.

Raskta's mastery of her blades was unparalleled, but even with her talents augmented by Worror's battle meditation she wasn't able to land a telling blow on such a small target through Bane's defenses. Still, the ferocity of her new strategy had turned the momentum in her favor ... or so Farfalla thought.'

'The young Jedi marveled at the speed and savagery of Raskta's blades. And while Johun's own clumsy efforts had actually seemed to impede Sarro when they fought side by side, Raskta appeared to thrive off his presence. When he went high, she went low. If he came from the left, she came from the right. It was partly a function of her choice of weapon: individually each of her lightsabers was more precise and accurate than Sarro's giant double blades. But it was more than that. Her reactions were so fast, her combat instincts so pure, that she was able to sense and anticipate what he was going to do even as it happened, then use his attacks to her own advantage.'

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Again, mere statements like these prove nothing. Kao was also adept at Jar Kai. He could employ Jar Kai using both double-bladed and single blade lightsabers.

Yes, Lsu stood up to Bane. However, Lsu was aided by several other Jedi. And she is weak in applications of the Force.

In comparison, Kao stood up to two prominent Sith Lords simultaneously and knocked one out on his own.

Kao has big advantage in applications of the Force over her. Nothing here proves that Lsu would dominate Kao in combat. On her very lucky day, she might win. However, Kao is more powerful and will handle her in majority of encounters.

You say mere statements are worthless and spout off a bunch of.... statements? Um..... irony? Oh and he can use Jar Kai. Oh my god how awesome! 🙄

It doesn't matter if she's weak in applications of the Force. She'd just run up and cut his ****ing head off. As seen above she has incredible Force Speed, the likes of which Malgus can't hope to keep up with.

But Bane is more powerful than both of those Sith put together. Ergo Lsu still wins. 😐

A big advantage that you've still not explained the relevence of. What exactly will he do?

That description about her affirms that she is very skilled with the lightsaber.

However, I judge characters on the basis of prominent kills. What are the prominent kills of Lsu?

As a contrasting example: for all we know, Jango Fett killed many Jedi with his bare hands. How good were those in combat?

During confrontation with the two prominent Sith Lords, Lsu was aided by the other Jedi and Battle Meditation of one of them. It helps a lot. This is why Bane chose to disturb the Jedi who was performing Battle Meditation. Once that was gone, all Jedi including Lsu fell easily. She clearly failed to predict backstabbing.

Do you even understand the big picture here?

Originally posted by Nephthys
You say mere statements are worthless and spout off a bunch of.... statements? Um..... irony? Oh and he can use Jar Kai. Oh my god how awesome! 🙄

He can use Jar Kai? WTF? He was not like Anakin in Geonosis.

Originally posted by Nephthys
It doesn't matter if she's weak in applications of the Force.

Originally posted by Nephthys
She'd just run up and cut his ****ing head off.

Originally posted by Nephthys
As seen above she has incredible Force Speed, the likes of which Malgus can't hope to keep up with.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Also, you talk about speed:

But Bane is more powerful than both of those Sith put together. Ergo Lsu still wins. 😐

Also, did Lsu beat Bane? No.

Originally posted by Nephthys
A big advantage that you've still not explained the relevence of. What exactly will he do?

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
That description about her affirms that she is very skilled with the lightsaber.

However, I judge characters on the basis of prominent kills. What are the prominent kills of Lsu?

As many Sith Lord kills as the Thought Bomb. Which gives her something like...... 100 kills to Kao's one.

....Oh no wait, he didn't even kill Vindican! Ok then, 100 to 0. 🙂

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
As a contrasting example: for all we know, Jango Fett killed many Jedi with his bare hands. How good were those in combat?

Pretty shit.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
During confrontation with the two prominent Sith Lords, Lsu was aided by the other Jedi and [B]Battle Meditation of one of them. It helps a lot. This is why Bane chose to disturb the Jedi who was performing Battle Meditation. Once that was gone, all Jedi including Lsu fell easily. She clearly failed to predict backstabbing.[/b]

She has Battle Meditation in this thread as well.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Do you even understand the big picture here?

Is that the show on The Escapist? I love that show!

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
It matters a lot smart @ss. That is why she failed miserably after the effects of Battle Meditation were gone.

That...... never happens. 😬

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Mere statements like these make no sense. You cannot prove this bullshit.

She is much faster than him. While I was being glib, its true that he cannot keep up with her speed.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Force speed is not everything. Strength has its own importance and benefits.

Speed is far superior in lightsaber combat considering that a single hit can take out an opponent because of the insane cutting power of a lightsaber. Plus since when did Kao have mighty strength?

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
And Malgus is strong in all applications of the Force. He will have a field-day with her. However, this is for another thread.

Yes. Wrong opponent, dude.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Another tall claim from you. Do you worship Bane?

Also, did Lsu beat Bane? No.

Yes.

So? What she demonstrated during the fight was incredible. That she wasn't able to defeat him is only due to Banes's own prodigious abilities and the Orbalisks.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Kao will manhandle Lsu with his force powers. She will be powerless.

How?