Black Adam vs Majestic

Originally posted by iceman24567
Its ect and no they may not be more skilled but their combat experience would more than even the playing field.

even the playing field? so you mean by those words they can match people like batman , karate kid and all of those with there skills?

let me remind you that in avengers cap was always training thor and in couple sparring fights they had cap just owned thor and thor commented saying something like how can a mortal do such things

as i explained before being in battles for 1000 years doesnt mean you increase your skills, if you swing your hammer for 1000 years and basically just brawl it doesnt mean you can match someone who studied different methods and forms of combat , just like batman being able to learn 127 fighting styles in couple of years... unreal? perhaps... but thats comics for you so dont try to apply too much significance to time

nutnut

Originally posted by snowdragon
You are taking my words to far.

Majestic is just better with what he's done over BA.

I'm saying comics create characters and no human with any amount of training should realistically be able to topple someone who fights for THOUSANDS of years like ex superman, thor, majestic who should have just by virtue of age picked up more then what humans master in a lifetime.

but then again you got batman whocan master 127 forms of fighting in couple years.... thats comics for you , and still as i stated before fighting for 1000 years =/= training and learning techniques for 1000 years , forall that i know thor could just swing his hammer for 1000 years and bash his enemies like that it doesnt make him more skilled

Originally posted by Babajaev
even the playing field? so you mean by those words they can match people like batman , karate kid and all of those with there skills?

let me remind you that in avengers cap was always training thor and in couple sparring fights they had cap just owned thor and thor commented saying something like how can a mortal do such things

as i explained before being in battles for 1000 years doesnt mean you increase your skills, if you swing your hammer for 1000 years and basically just brawl it doesnt mean you can match someone who studied different methods and forms of combat , just like batman being able to learn 127 fighting styles in couple of years... unreal? perhaps... but thats comics for you so dont try to apply too much significance to time

Originally posted by iceman24567
Do you seriously believe Thor didn't have proper h2h training? Nobody is saying he his Batman level but you are low balling

low balling because i am stating he is not as skilled as the top MA guys in comics? 😬

"as i explained before being in battles for 1000 years doesnt mean you increase your skills"

And as I explained that's comic logic at it's greatest, it's insane. That's the reason I generally try to stay away from "skill" fights in comics.

No one in their right mind can actually comprehend (I would hope) that you don't get better in a thousand years of doing something even casually that a human can only spend say 50 years devoting their life to.

As I said from the start alot of these guys are very similar in power however Majestic takes this one.

Originally posted by Babajaev
low balling because i am stating he is not as skilled as the top MA guys in comics? 😬

Originally posted by snowdragon
"as i explained before being in battles for 1000 years doesnt mean you increase your skills"

And as I explained that's comic logic at it's greatest, it's insane. That's the reason I generally try to stay away from "skill" fights in comics.

No one in their right mind can actually comprehend (I would hope) that you don't get better in a thousand years of doing something even casually that a human can only spend say 50 years devoting their life to.

As I said from the start alot of these guys are very similar in power however Majestic takes this one.

first of all where is it stated he recieved real training and studied new techniques over all those years? if after 1000 he is getting tooled and trained by cap it tells me he didnt achieve much in those 1000 years

how many fights did he have all those 1000 years? was it stated he had fights everyday? for all that we know he could have not so much fights during that time, and this is freakin thor even if he did fight he could just use his powers to win the fight and thats it who even said he got physical? and even if he got physical who said he had to use too much skills? 1 or 2 mjolnir swings to the head and most of the fights would be over .... so tell me something what makes you believe so hard that during those 1000 years thor was suppose to get better and more skilled as a fighter to the point he HAS TO BE better and more skilled than any human like batman who spent his entire life training

nutnut

Originally posted by iceman24567
Yes of course thats exactly what i said 😐

well that was my point to begin with that he is not as skilled as the top guys...and then you came and tried to prove....something i guess...so that means you dont agree with me which means you think the opposite?

Originally posted by Babajaev
even the playing field? so you mean by those words they can match people like batman , karate kid and all of those with there skills?

let me remind you that in avengers cap was always training thor and in couple sparring fights they had cap just owned thor and thor commented saying something like how can a mortal do such things

as i explained before being in battles for 1000 years doesnt mean you increase your skills, if you swing your hammer for 1000 years and basically just brawl it doesnt mean you can match someone who studied different methods and forms of combat , just like batman being able to learn 127 fighting styles in couple of years... unreal? perhaps... but thats comics for you so dont try to apply too much significance to time

Issue number or scan please. Otherwise, I'm going to assume you just made all of that up.

Also, lol. Thor's an incredibly skilled warrior.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Issue number or scan please. Otherwise, I'm going to assume you just made all of that up.

Also, lol. Thor's an incredibly skilled warrior.

i never said thor isnt skilled he is very skilled and easlity can match or outmatch hercules and the likes , what i was stating is just because he lives for 1000 years doesnt mean he is outomatically more skilled than any human or any being that didnt live so much

i dont remember the issue number nor i have a scan to show but as a thor fan you should know about those, the had overall 2 sparring fights, 1 of them is when thor was mortal and he did well cap himself was impressed, the second one was in avengers i remember it cap was using thors momentum against him threw him to the ground several times and thor stated something like how can a mortal do such things , also it was stated in comics several times that thor was trained by cap

nutnut

Originally posted by Babajaev
i never said thor isnt skilled he is very skilled and easlity can match or outmatch hercules and the likes , what i was stating is just because he lives for 1000 years doesnt mean he is outomatically more skilled than any human or any being that didnt live so much

That's fine. I agree, longevity doesn't automatically mean that one is incredibly skilled but usually in comics, warriors who have lived for a while are pretty formidable in combat.

Originally posted by Babajaev
i dont remember the issue number nor i have a scan to show but as a thor fan you should know about those, the had overall 2 sparring fights, 1 of them is when thor was mortal and he did well cap himself was impressed, the second one was in avengers i remember it cap was using thors momentum against him threw him to the ground several times and thor stated something like how can a mortal do such things , also it was stated in comics several times that thor was trained by cap

If they really happened, I would know about them. A mortal Thor sparring Captain America? As far as I know, that's your imagination. The closest scene that fits that second description is Thunderstrike's sparring match with Steve, which as everyone knows is the mortal Eric Masterson.

You're definitely making that up. I haven't seen such a reference being made once, much less several times. The only time Captain America has directly commented on Thor's skill is in this scene:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/Bio6.jpg

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Issue number or scan please. Otherwise, I'm going to assume you just made all of that up.

Also, lol. Thor's an incredibly skilled warrior.

He's a skilled viking warrior. Cap doing things Thor's amazed at makes sense, because vikings generally don't study martial arts.

But he's been in too many fights with too many powerful characters not to have picked up some skills along the way.

Originally posted by Babajaev
well that was my point to begin with that he is not as skilled as the top guys...and then you came and tried to prove....something i guess...so that means you dont agree with me which means you think the opposite?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

If they really happened, I would know about them. A mortal Thor sparring Captain America? As far as I know, that's your imagination. The closest scene that fits that second description is Thunderstrike's sparring match with Steve, which as everyone knows is the mortal Eric Masterson.

You're definitely making that up. I haven't seen such a reference being made once, much less several times. The only time Captain America has directly commented on Thor's skill is in this scene:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/Bio6.jpg

i am searching for those right now

Originally posted by iceman24567
I will say it again Thors fighting abilities are good not Batman but hes fairly capable in h2h

oh ok 👆

Originally posted by Babajaev
i am searching for those right now

Originally posted by cdtm
He's a skilled viking warrior. Cap doing things Thor's amazed at makes sense, because vikings generally don't study martial arts.

But he's been in too many fights with too many powerful characters not to have picked up some skills along the way.

Meh, Captain America should be very impressive for a mortal but for someone who has seen as much as Thor, it's not anything out there in the grand scheme of things.

The Asgardian race is obviously very skilled in various forms of combat. Even stuff like pressure points that gets some people wet are well known to them as Sif and Valkyrie illustrated.

Edge to Maj..