Originally posted by Horrificus
1. Hold his little human wrists and then smile, before eating Logan's throat, face and organs.
or
2. Use his super-speed to "pluck" all tissue from Logan's body, while Logan is still in the middle of his "Best there is at what I do..." speech.Those are just off the top of my head.
Snikt bub snikt snikt bub.
You lose.
Originally posted by DamborgsonWhat the F*ck are you talking about with this full force sh*t? All Thor did was knock him off his back. Him yelling "ENOUGH!" does not equal Zero restraint. And Good Lord no that was not a "full force" lightning bolt. Thor wanted to snap Wolverine out of it. Not fry him like he did Daken. That tiny instance alone should show you that he was holding back his attacks.
Those pics represented about how much damage Thor tried to do to logan. Thank you.
🐰 = how effective thor's attacks were on logan.
thor, himself said he was using his "finest" hammer strikes against logan.
go back & read it again. as for the lightning attack bull*%&(.....logan
has tanked FULL force beams from Bastion to the point where bastion
retreated as logan was moving right through the beam & toward bastion.
logan's son doesn't have anywhere near the damage soak logan has. thor
responded quickly, but it was substantial attack regardless of that.
Originally posted by wildernesss
logan has beaten the grey hulk, taken full force hammer & lightning strikes from thor (to little or no effect), taken beatings from gladiator with no KO in sight, gone right through gladiator with his claws....etc,etc,etc...dos doomsday couldn't even easily KO booster gold while his shields were down & he was completly vulnerable.even if doomsday manages to KO logan within a minute or 2, he will not be able to shut down logan's healing factor within the remaining minutes before logan is back at full recovery (until the stips). logan can regenerate from nothing but a skeleton if need be.
essentially, if this is a fight to a KO, doomsday gets a majority.
anything else extended beyond that is logan's win.
You know that all of that has been retconned in Superman:day of doom. Doomsady's punches were causing earthquakes in Richter scale when he was trying to get free, his and superman's punches were causing shockwaves that were felt in Gotham, his last punch with superman shook earth to it's core. All of that uber healing feats are retconned away with Lazaer incident where it was revealed that everytime Logan healed from impossible situations was due to his wins over Lazaer in Limbo. After that few bullets from shotguns overloaded his HF and recently he nearly died in X-force when his left side was burned away.
Originally posted by wildernesss
oh, i'm sorry, i thought you actually read the comic. never mind. when thor said he's using his "finest" hammer strikes he said he was using his finest hammer strikes.
If the damage contradicts something a character says, generally we go by the damage inflicted.
If not, every opponent Superman has had has been his collectively toughest opponent.
And iirc Thor did say he had been holding back during the comic.
Originally posted by wildernesssX2
🐰 = how effective thor's attacks were on logan.thor, himself said he was using his "finest" hammer strikes against logan.
go back & read it again. as for the lightning attack bull*%&(.....logan
has tanked FULL force beams from Bastion to the point where bastion
retreated as logan was moving right through the beam & toward bastion.
logan's doesn't have anywhere near the damage soak logan has. thor
responded quickly, but it was substantial attack regardless of that.
Thor has also said he has throw his hammer faster than thought. That doesnt make it true.
Remove yourself from Wolverines balls first. Thats great? You still have nothing that sayins it was "full force" or even comes close to implying it. Thor wanted to snap Wolverine out of it. Not hurt him in anyway. He wouldn't use attacks to hurt him. Once he had him by the foot in a real fight it would have been over. Whether Thor decided to gently toss him up into a storm cloud and fry him or not so gently toss him out of the solar system. Not to mention once Thor hit Wolverine he could have instantly plowed into him with an ubber lightning charged dive. Then beat him until he felt content.
Nothing Thor did in that comic could be considered "full force" anything. Not the hammer strike, the lightning, or the speed of his blows. Anything or than this is total fanboyism bordering on insanity.
Originally posted by Damborgson
X2Thor has also said he has throw his hammer faster than thought. That doesnt make it true.
Remove yourself from Wolverines balls first. Thats great? You still have nothing that sayins it was "full force" or even comes close to implying it. Thor wanted to snap Wolverine out of it. Not hurt him in anyway. He wouldn't use attacks to hurt him. Once he had him by the foot in a real fight it would have been over. Whether Thor decided to gently toss him up into a storm cloud and fry him or not so gently toss him out of the solar system. Not to mention once Thor hit Wolverine he could have instantly plowed into him with an ubber lightning charged dive. Then beat him until he felt content.
Nothing Thor did in that comic could be considered "full force" anything. Not the hammer strike, the lightning, or the speed of his blows. Anything or than this is total fanboyism bordering on insanity.
lol @ me being the fanboy. coming from the walking thor billboard who
snuggles his plush mjolnir pillow & whispers how "we'll always be together" as you fall asleep.
"full force" was hyperbole. when he struck logan off his back it wasn't
with restraint. it was the real deal. the speed of his blows were already
established as inferior to logan's combat speed. by thor AND on panel.
get it? the lightning, who gives a crap? the way logan tanked that bolt of lightning (which was a phucking bolt of lightning) showed he could have handled 5 x that amount. not to mention that logan has tanked energy blasts that wtf pwn what thor did to logan's son. logan tanked AND walking right through a full powered blast from bastion > thor's blast on logan's son.
Originally posted by wildernesss
logan has beaten the grey hulk,
You've claimed before that Logan recently defeated the Grey Hulk, I still want an issue number and/or scans for that battle.
Originally posted by wildernesss
taken full force hammer & lightning strikes from thor (to little or no effect),
😐
You must be joking. Even when he got ticked off, he didn't unleash anything even resembling his best. I'd wager he only hit Logan with as much power as he could safely take:
"Art thou unharmed, friend Wolverine?"
Thor has a long history of holding back. He does it even when he doesn't want to, it's subconscious to an extent.
Originally posted by wildernesss
taken beatings from gladiator with no KO in sight,
That's a blatant lie.
Originally posted by wildernesss
dos doomsday couldn't even easily KO booster gold while his shields were down & he was completly vulnerable.
What a horrible attempt at downplaying Doomsday.
I mean, just atrocious.
Im sorry but it needs to be said. Anyone who thinks wolverine can beat dd with this stip or not is f#cking retarted. your either lying and dont really believe your own bs or just completely delusional. There is no way to look at this fight fairly and come to that conclusion. Come on this guy killed superman who had help with his bare hands but wolverine is outa his league. Heres a question to screw with wolvie fans. Who would win dd with wolvies powers, abilities, and brains, or wolvie with dd power, skills, and brains. If wolverine wins his power set loses and if his powerset wins then he loses.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You've claimed before that Logan recently defeated the Grey Hulk, I still want an issue number and/or scans for that battle.😐
You must be joking. Even when he got ticked off, he didn't unleash anything even resembling his best. I'd wager he only hit Logan with as much power as he could safely take:
"Art thou unharmed, friend Wolverine?"
Thor has a long history of holding back. He does it even when he doesn't want to, it's subconscious to an extent.
That's a blatant lie.
What a horrible attempt at downplaying Doomsday.
I mean, just atrocious.
-logan beat the grey hulk in a short flashback scene in the third arc of his new series
-judging by how minimal the damage was to logan, thor didn't even need to hold back (if he was). logan has tanked a continuous energy beam from Bastion that actually demonstrates why he is called wolverine
-gladiator beat the crap out of logan during the new x-men run. logan was even talking at the end of the beating. No KO.
-the disconnect here is a failure to appreciate just how relatively unmatched logan's damage soak & HF is. it's not a failing on thor's part that anything outside of his absolute BEST, not-holding-back strikes wouldn't KO logan...it's that logan's damage soak really IS that good.
Originally posted by Raptor22
Im sorry but it needs to be said. Anyone who thinks wolverine can beat dd with this stip or not is f#cking retarted. your either lying and dont really believe your own bs or just completely delusional. There is no way to look at this fight fairly and come to that conclusion. Come on this guy killed superman who had help with his bare hands but wolverine is outa his league. Heres a question to screw with wolvie fans. Who would win dd with wolvies powers, abilities, and brains, or wolvie with dd power, skills, and brains. If wolverine wins his power set loses and if his powerset wins then he loses.
dd wins this if it's simply to a KO.
logan wins this if it's extended beyond that; the reason being that dd
cannot shut down logan's healing factor within 5 minutes. why? because logan is apparently STILL connected to the phoenix force & therefore essentially immortal. dd could reduce logan to nothing but a metal skeleton & the phoenix would still restore logan with enough matter to regenerate. unless dd can destroy or rip adamantium to pieces, what the phuck can he do?
