Wonder Man vs Animal Man

Animal Man uses the proportionate strength of a comic book flea, how does this go?

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Believe it or not, Animal Man is the one DC character that I know perhaps even better then I know Nova and Iron Fist. Are you using the 52 version?

Well let's assume that everything in comics are twice as powerful, as they are in real life.

Originally posted by dmills
Believe it or not, Animal Man is the one DC character that I know perhaps even better then I know Nova and Iron Fist. Are you using the 52 version?

Yes let's go with the 52 version of Animal Man.

Originally posted by Stoic
Animal Man uses the proportionate strength of a comic book flea, how does this go?

Why flea? Why not rhinoceros beetle? Pound for pound they are the strongest creatures on Earth by far. If all else fails he because a Sun Eater then destroys WM. AM 10/10.

A rhinoceros beetle is stronger than a flea pound for pound? I never knew that.

Originally posted by zopzop
Why flea? Why not rhinoceros beetle? Pound for pound they are the strongest creatures on Earth by far. If all else fails he because a Sun Eater then destroys WM. AM 10/10.

I thought dung beetles were strongest? Because they need to move through all that poo and not get crushed by it...

They're supposed to be strong enough to lift something like 85-90 tons.

http://www.extremescience.com/strongest-animal.htm

They can lift the human equivalent of six full double decker buses.

One double decker bus weighs between 7 and 12 tons. If we assume 100 people at 150 lbs each, that's 15 tons per load, so 90 tons for the people alone.

Yeah, my guess was a bit off.

Edit: Wait, that's 15,000 lbs per load. So that's only around 7 tons a load, right?

Still a lot of weight.

Originally posted by Stoic
A rhinoceros beetle is stronger than a flea pound for pound? I never knew that.

Yeah, I could have sworn Rhino Beetles are the strongest animal pound for pound in terms of "lifting" objects. They can lift 850x's their weight. I heard fleas can "pull" objects 160,000x's their weight. I consider the lifting feat more impressive. 😛

Originally posted by zopzop
Yeah, I could have sworn Rhino Beetles are the strongest animal pound for pound in terms of "lifting" objects. They can lift 850x's their weight. I heard fleas can "pull" objects 160,000x's their weight. I consider the lifting feat more impressive. 😛

That's impressive, no doubt.

The horned dung beetle lifts 1,141 times its weight, so it has the Rhino beat by a comfortable margin. But both are impressive.

Originally posted by zopzop
Why flea? Why not rhinoceros beetle? Pound for pound they are the strongest creatures on Earth by far.

Originally posted by Galan007
Neither a beetle nor a flea weigh a pound, though. A huge hole in your logic has been exposed. excellent

I thought we were friends sadangel.

IIRC, Topical Dust Mites (90 tons) are the strongest animal on the planet, while rhinoceros beetle come in a second with 65 ton. (human translations)

Originally posted by HandOfFate
IIRC, Topical Dust Mites (90 tons) are the strongest animal on the planet, while rhinoceros beetle come in a second with 65 ton. (human translations)

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2010/03/25/the-mightiest-mite-dung-beetle-is-crowned-worlds-strongest-bug/

Odd that it's not even mentioned.

Dust mites can lift 1'182 times their own weight.. That's more than the horned hung beetles 1,141 and Rhino Beetles 850.

Edit: Ah, I just did a quick google, and dust mites aren't strictly insects. Eight legs instead of six, so they're in the same category as spiders..

Like cdtm, I had heard dung beetles had surpassed Rhino beetles in that "pound for pound" title.

Originally posted by cdtm
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2010/03/25/the-mightiest-mite-dung-beetle-is-crowned-worlds-strongest-bug/

Odd that it's not even mentioned.

Dust mites can lift 1'182 times their own weight.. That's more than the horned hung beetles 1,141 and Rhino Beetles 850.

Edit: Ah, I just did a quick google, and dust mites aren't strictly insects. Eight legs instead of six, so they're in the same category as spiders..

Yeah, Dust Mites are pretty powerful (putting AM and Vixen in the class 90 range) but that won't do them any good if they can't take a punch. They need to stack some form of Invulnerability.....like when Vixen fought Superman.

Originally posted by HandOfFate
Yeah, Dust Mites are pretty powerful (putting AM and Vixen in the class 90 range) but that won't do them any good if they can't take a punch. They need to stack some form of Invulnerability.....like when Vixen fought Superman.

Or even worse, smashes his wrist...

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Or even worse, smashes his wrist...

Which would probably happen without a higher form of durability to support his super-strength.

Originally posted by HandOfFate
Yeah, Dust Mites are pretty powerful (putting AM and Vixen in the class 90 range) but that won't do them any good if they can't take a punch. They need to stack some form of Invulnerability.....like when Vixen fought Superman.

That was my thought exactly. Great call. For some reason I was thinking cock roach, but that'd be more damage soak than hard durability lol.