Star Wars: Dawn of the Jedi

Called it.

This first issue was one giant facepalm.

Forcesaber... What shitty excuse to make lightsabers in 25 000 BBY. Now, if they make forcesaber capable to cut through metal like lightsabers, then I ask, why Jedi still use lightsabers with cord and a huge special power pack 5000 BBY.

Hopefully we'll find out more about the Rakata. Personally I think a game where you play as a Rakata during the fall of the Infinate Empire would be pretty sweet. Or one of the slave races overthrowing it. Infinate Empire-era has a lot of potential to be cool.

Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
This first issue was one giant facepalm.

Weren't the jedi using swords before sabers with a power pack? Again, facepalm.

Well, yeah, the Jedi are using metal swords during that period. I believe it's the Rakatans and their force agents, who used forcesabers. But, nevertheless, it will create many questions regarding the huge time gap between forcesabers and lame lighstabers powered by big batteries attached to the hilt by a cord. I only hope that Forcesaber generally works like a club or a blunt sword, and that it will not be able to cut through things with ease, if at all. Its primary objective should be shielding from projectiles or bloacking melee attacks. Only that could explain, why more powerful, but cumbersome proto-lightsabers were preferred to use instead. Because of power. Of course if the Jedi get hold of the forcesaber blueprints from the Rakatans at all.

But we are forgetting one thing - Infinite empire had simply vanished from the collective memory of the Republic and the Galaxy, which means that somehow they'll find a way to erase the memories of Forcesabers, and thus lightsaber with a crystal inside for breaking and empowering the laser beam will be born on the ruins of these Rakatan technologies. Pity they use Rakatans as cornerstone for technology, instead of good old academic thinking and scientific explorations. *farts*

If I remember correctly, Exar Kun's former Master was blocking lighstaber attacks with his wooden stick. So empowering things with force wasn't that unfamiliar. Apparently all it required was to be strong with the Force and able to focus at all times.

Lets just call it stupid ok?

Of course it's trash. When it comes to Star Wars that's always the default answer, as there hasn't been any decent EU out since the 2003 clone wars cartoon.

The question is, "How trashy is it?"

There's differing levels of trash in EU.

RE: Blaxican
there hasn't been any decent EU out since the 2003 clone wars cartoon.

Relative to various other tie in franchises (Forgotten Realms, anything in the 40k not written by Dan Abnett), Star Wars has had some pretty good material, especially the rather awesome season four of the TCW. That being said, when stacked up against original literature and science fiction, the vast amount of SW is shit. SW is and always will be, a fun escapist fantasy, but it's not good literature and nor will it ever be (KOTOR II being an exception.)

Originally posted by Lucius
but it's not good literature and nor will it ever be (KOTOR II being an exception.)

Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
I have to say, holy shit that was a good issue. I'm definitely liking this thus far. It's pretty funny that the original Jedi were the only ones who understood the balance of the force. Everyone that came after failed miserably in that regard. Also, having the Rakata present makes this even more badass.

I didn't really like the way they chose to portray the early Jedi. But we'll see, where it gets us. I imagined the first Jedi would be more like monks traveling around, before establishing a centralized order. Somehow Episode IV comes to mind, when Obi Wan talks about guardians of peace etc. And once again, no starports and infrastructure can be seen, and Rakatans seem very primitive, although the use the best tech in the Galaxy.

P.S. BTW, Tatooine was in the first issue. How ****ed up is that?

I guess authors prefer idea of universe with life existing over infinite period of time, where technologies constantly get invented and lost replacing each other and each one of them can be advanced to its golden age in any period of that time. Those forcesabers could be devices similar to lightsabers or even better but over thousands years this technology was lost due to, for example, some devastating wars resulting in Jedi near extermination and inability to replicate it just like Celestial technologies.

So basically Warhammer 40K? That kind of makes sense, since WH40K shits all over Star Wars as far as quality science fiction.

It always seemed like a setting for mere gratuitous violence and what I've learned of it in the six months of living with two 40k enthusiasts has done nothing to change my opinion. Grimdark and violent doesn't constitute quality science fiction any more than optimistic escapism.

You should probably actually read something from the universe and form your opinion off of that, instead of going off of whatever menstruations your roommates make, random newbie that I have never met before outside of this forum.

I would recommend starting with Horus Rising. Good read, that.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
You should probably actually read something from the universe and form your opinion off of that,

And who says I haven't? Ciaphas Cain: Hero of the Imperium was boring. The writers could benefit from a man like Stover, who knows how to properly blend gratuitous violence with something more dimensional. But then that's probably why I don't watch anime or religiously play first person shooters.

Ciaphas Cain is one of the worst book series in the mythos. That's like basing your opinion on collective EU off of reading Jedi Trial. I should ****ing slap you.

SW!EU is hardly a bastion of quality works. If it's not authored by Luceno or Stover, there's very little hope for it (with few exceptions). That's the rule of thumb for massive multi-author franchises; a lack of quality control.

I have a lack of interest in Warhammer 40k because I've seen nothing that indicates it has any sort of emotional or moralistic spectrum beyond WAR! RAPE! MURDER! DEATH! BLOODLUST!

It has all the subtlety and complexity of a Uwe Boll film.

Sure, but like I said, that's only because no one has given you good advice as to what 40K lore to expose yourself too. I would never tell someone who was new to the universe to read the Ciaphas Cain series, or the Gaunt's Ghost series. That would be ludicrous.

Fresh faces should always start off with the Horus Heresy series. Specifically, Horus Rising.

QUALITY SCIENCE FICTION!

Originally posted by Gambler
Well, yeah, the Jedi are using metal swords during that period. I believe it's the Rakatans and their force agents, who used forcesabers. But, nevertheless, it will create many questions regarding the huge time gap between forcesabers and lame lighstabers powered by big batteries attached to the hilt by a cord. I only hope that Forcesaber generally works like a club or a blunt sword, and that it will not be able to cut through things with ease, if at all. Its primary objective should be shielding from projectiles or bloacking melee attacks. Only that could explain, why more powerful, but cumbersome proto-lightsabers were preferred to use instead. Because of power. Of course if the Jedi get hold of the forcesaber blueprints from the Rakatans at all.

But we are forgetting one thing - Infinite empire had simply vanished from the collective memory of the Republic and the Galaxy, which means that somehow they'll find a way to erase the memories of Forcesabers, and thus lightsaber with a crystal inside for breaking and empowering the laser beam will be born on the ruins of these Rakatan technologies. Pity they use Rakatans as cornerstone for technology, instead of good old academic thinking and scientific explorations. *farts*

If I remember correctly, Exar Kun's former Master was blocking lighstaber attacks with his wooden stick. So empowering things with force wasn't that unfamiliar. Apparently all it required was to be strong with the Force and able to focus at all times.

The jedi sabers are "filled" with the force, therefore they can withstand forcesabers.

You can see the force making the swords shyni.