Magneto runs a gauntlet

Originally posted by abhilegend
When did I say magneto can't win against Kal, just he can't take a majority against him. Triumph didn't do anything against superman, Kal saying he is going to die if triumph absorbed his energy is also false as he has been totally depowered in final night and many times more and we saw superman punching down triumph anyway. Polaris incident is tricky because superman was not fighting him and superman recovered pretty much instantly from what polaris did to him. I give superman 6-6.5/10 against magnus. It's not a knock down on Eric, after all it's superman.

Fair enough. Just to be clear, Magneto can take the majority, I just think Superman's the safer bet.

Here's their entire fight, Triumph was beating him using his energy manipulation, that much isn't debatable imo:

The only reason Superman was able to down Triumph is because John was able to intervene. It's not false, at best it's inconsistent with what's come before.

When "Repulse" bent the electromagnetic spectrum around Superman and rendered him blind, he didn't recover instantly, he relied on his hearing:

And Polaris was able to momentarily down Superman using his powers.

Superman's vulnerable to energy manipulation and Magneto is extremely skilled at it, I'd favor him if he stuck to that type if indirect approach. If you doubt his skill at it, he was able to f*ck up Proteus and countless other examples.

Whatever, I agree with you, Superman edges out the majority.

To be clear, I wasn't saying that Superman owned Triumph, I just love that page as one of the great "oh shit" moments in comics.

I agree with you regarding Superman though. Triumph has control over the electromagnetic spectrum like Magneto, but he also has Superman level stats to boot.

I'm concerned with whether Magneto can maintain his shields while a Kryptonian beats down on him and siphon energy at the same time. Does anyone know of any similar feats of his?

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Theoretically shouldn't Magneto's control over the electromagnetic spectrum give him pretty much unimpeded control over Lantern constructs?

That's assuming you consider the emotional spectrum to be part of the electromagnetic one.

Originally posted by -Pr-
That's assuming you consider the emotional spectrum to be part of the electromagnetic one.

Originally posted by Starscream M
even if it isn't....mags would still have control over most light constructs

Krona tried the same thing.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Krona tried the same thing.

Originally posted by Cogito
To be clear, I wasn't saying that Superman owned Triumph, I just love that page as one of the great "oh shit" moments in comics.

I agree with you regarding Superman though. Triumph has control over the electromagnetic spectrum like Magneto, but he also has Superman level stats to boot.

I'm concerned with whether Magneto can maintain his shields while a Kryptonian beats down on him and siphon energy at the same time. Does anyone know of any similar feats of his?

Multitasking while having a force field up? That's like Magneto's signature move. The latest most impressive showing of such is when he moved that -moon sized- planet shattering bullet from across the Galaxy at light speed while preventing any and all physical/mental contact. That was Fraction's old man Magneto too.

You can also try checking his respect thread (If you can't, I'll find some showings) you won't find a Kryptonian specifically but there are plenty of instances of him fending off powerful forces. Magneto is often facing teams of characters. Also, if Magneto decides to mess with Superman's energies, I don't think he'll be in a position to mount a significant enough offensive to break Magneto's concentration if he ever could.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=417866&pagenumber=18

Scroll down and you'll find some recent feats. The second last page also has his recent Celestial feat.

Yeah, I pretty much concur with everything Rage has said. I don't really see an argument for Power Girl to take Magneto out, regardless of how you see a fight going down between him and Clark.

It's a lot harder for me to pick a side in a fight between Magneto and either Guy or Bill, as the latter two by default pack more power, as well as the in-theory capacity to actually overcome Mags' shields, energy manipulations, etc... but then, on average Magneto gives me the impression that he controls his (and sometimes, other peoples) powers with greater acuity, and has a demonstrated ability to take it to people as powerful as Guy and Bill, so, meh.

Shaman Nate definitively stops him.

yep, I think Magneto's extreme competency must be factored as a huge advantage against any of his opponents. Its not just raw power but also how you use it.

Originally posted by Starscream M
not familiar with krona, does he possess Magneto's level of energy control?

Krona was an ex-guardian who could control oan energy by thought alone. Hal overpowered him, however briefly.

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I know I'm in the minority, but I'm of the opinion that GL energy isn't that easy to manipulate unless you have some specific counter for it (like a Manhunter battery for example).

I can see PG giving Magneto trouble, even getting a few wins from him. I suppose he'd take the majority though. Guy is a different story though, and I'd think Guy has a definite chance of taking a majority.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Krona was an ex-guardian who could control oan energy by thought alone. Hal overpowered him, however briefly.

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I know I'm in the minority, but I'm of the opinion that GL energy isn't that easy to manipulate unless you have some specific counter for it (like a Manhunter battery for example).

I can see PG giving Magneto trouble, even getting a few wins from him. I suppose he'd take the majority though. Guy is a different story though, and I'd think Guy has a definite chance of taking a majority.

do u believe erik is a step below elite lanterns

Originally posted by Sin I AM
do u believe erik is a step below elite lanterns

Like Hal? Yes.

Not a huge step, but a step nonetheless.