Cyborg Superman vs Magneto...

Started by cdtm5 pages
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Henshaw can do that with non-machinery (which I assume Magneto's helmet is)?

It's supposed to have circuitry (to filter telepaths) in it.

Since when?

Originally posted by Mindset
Since when?

Since always. o_o

I see Leo asked about it earlier in the thread, so I'm not just making that up. The helms supposed to contain tech that blocks telepaths.

I love CS, but I'm going with Magneto on this one. The post stated to the death OR k.o. To me that means that it is irrelevant if CS can protect himself from an EMP attack or reconstitute himself. Magneto wouldn't need it. Hank is made up of large amounts Kryptonian alloys, until someone definitively proves those alloys are non metallic, Magneto could rip CS to pieces with a thought. Instant K.O

Originally posted by cdtm
Since always. o_o

I see Leo asked about it earlier in the thread, so I'm not just making that up. The helms supposed to contain tech that blocks telepaths.

Sorry, youre both wrong.

I'll ignore it this time.

With all that tech nearby, even ripping apart his body likely won't result in a KO before he forms another body.

Superman kept ripping him apart and blasting him with heat vision in Superman/Doomsday, and it wasn't getting him anywhere.

Of far greater importance, is the fact Cyborg Superman has heat vision, and super speed due to Kryptionian physiology. Even without feats proving he has speed on Supermans level or can blitz, it's indisputable he DOES have super speed, as he shares all the powers of a Kryptonian. I'd bet money on him frying Mags, before he can erect a shield or rip his body apart..

Originally posted by cdtm
It's supposed to have circuitry (to filter telepaths) in it.
Even if it does, do you really think that circuitry is strong enough to crush his head when Magneto can himself exert counter-forces on the entirety of the helmet (circuitry and other metal and all)?

Originally posted by cdtm
With all that tech nearby, even ripping apart his body likely won't result in a KO before he forms another body.

Superman kept ripping him apart and blasting him with heat vision in Superman/Doomsday, and it wasn't getting him anywhere.

Of far greater importance, is the fact Cyborg Superman has heat vision, and super speed due to Kryptionian physiology. Even without feats proving he has speed on Supermans level or can blitz, it's indisputable he DOES have super speed, as he shares all the powers of a Kryptonian. I'd bet money on him frying Mags, before he can erect a shield or rip his body apart..

You know, I was thinking this as well; all Henshaw has to do is get to Magneto once...1 blow lands flush on Magneto's frail human body and its all over.

While its true that Henshaw would most likely be vulnerable to Magneto's power, Magneto failing to a speed blitz by Henshaw is not at all out of the question...

Originally posted by cdtm
With all that tech nearby, even ripping apart his body likely won't result in a KO before he forms another body.

Superman kept ripping him apart and blasting him with heat vision in Superman/Doomsday, and it wasn't getting him anywhere.


However, Superman was ripping his apart one piece at a time. Magneto could potentially rip out thousands of pieces simultaneously. Magneto's shield has held up to some pretty powerful attacks. If it's already up at the beginning of the fight, then the few fractions of a second it would take Henshaw to overcome it would be plenty of time for Mags to do his thing.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
That might be viable if his organic parts weren't Kryptonian in nature and if he couldn't likewise use that tech and random shit lying around to his own advantage as well.

I really don't see Magneto having better control over Hank's body than Hank himself has. The environment is a different story.

What if Magneto formed a force field around him and used a ripped the metal out of Cyborg the way he did adamantium from wolverine? Assuming he can rip apart Cyborg, how will Cyborg counter?

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
What if Magneto formed a force field around him and used a ripped the metal out of Cyborg the way he did adamantium from wolverine? Assuming he can rip apart Cyborg, how will Cyborg counter?

Assuming he rips him apart before Hank can react (which is doubtful), Hank regenerates and rebuilds another body.

It would be one thing if Erik could destroy him completely and utterly and Hank couldn't feasibly just bring himself back together. But he can. And eventually, he's going to tire out, where as Hank will not. Furthermore, Cyborg will have a considerable degree of control over his own body as well as the tech in the area. The Wolverine comparison is moot as Wolverine can't effortlessly heal injury nigh-instantly and morph and create new bodies out of virtually whatever is lying around.

Can Magneto physically rend Hank apart? Sure, he could, but he'd also have to deal with Hank just putting himself back together again as well as the integrated technological weapons and abilities Hank has. I don't think Magneto is going to win a quick draw contest with a guy who was able to calculate the proper trajectory needed to BFR Doomsday and send him in a perpetual cruise across the galaxy.

Can Magneto disperse his energy signature? Sure, I believe he can. But he'd have to efficiently and completely destroy Henshaw first and prevent him from coming back. And I don't think Erik can do that feasibly for the majority.

I don't think it's impossible for Erik to conceivably beat Cyborg Superman at all. He has the power to do so. Just not for the majority, imho.

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Interesting fight.

I think Magneto can rip him apart, which gives him the initial win, and thus, wins this match.

Hank will eventually overwhelm him though in the long run.

I'll safetly go with Mags

How is Magneto ripping him apart? Is everybody forgetting Hank's strength and durability? Not to mention he can negate magnetic forces.

Scans?

Mags. Unfortunately Cyborg Supes is too metal to win. Also Mags doesn't have human durability like...ever. He's tanked nukes, punches from Colossus, Quicksilver, Hercules, etc.

Originally posted by DarkRaiden
Mags. Unfortunately Cyborg Supes is too metal to win. Also Mags doesn't have human durability like...ever. He's tanked nukes, punches from Colossus, Quicksilver, Hercules, etc.

Magnus has endured these things over what length of time?

Cyborg Superman posseses a combination of speed and power he has never encountered.

lol Magneto won't last more than 20 seconds her.

Henshaw is physically on par with Superman, has matter and energy manipulation and can send his consiousness into whatever he wants.

Hanks body isn't made out of metal, its made out of whatever he wants. If he wanted to compose his body out of paper machete he could.

Also, Magneto has no chance of damaging him. Magneto was unable to damage Paulie Provenzano because of his duraiblity, and Paulie is on the low end when it comes to superhuman durability where as Hank at his peak has survived black holes.

Not to mention Hank could easily blitz Magneto's face off.

Literally nothing Mags can do where Hank can kill Mags in like 9 different ways.

Magneto isn't a herald level character and never will be, he needs to stick to what he does best, getting his ass kicked by the likes of Iron Man.

Originally posted by abhilegend
How is Magneto ripping him apart? Is everybody forgetting Hank's strength and durability? Not to mention he can negate magnetic forces.
Originally posted by maxivitopowe
Scans?

He did produce an "ion disruptor" that negated Superman Blue's energy sphere. Whether it was magnetic or electromagnetic wasn't specified, but I'd think it would work on either.