Thanos vs Superman "arm wrestling contest"

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
mhmm

Yet you've said that you think Gladiator busting a planetoid makes him stronger than Thor (Putting aside the fact that Thor has better and more feats) despite for example Masterson Thor stalemating Gladiator in a contest of strength.

There's a disconnect somewhere here.

Show me where I said that. I said Gladiator showings against other Heralds puts him above Thor. The planetary ft is all nice and dandy but Gladiator fist towards the face is far more lethal.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Who's talking about lifting feats here. Name any STRENGTH feat not durability like taking shots from B&T thor, thanos has which superman can't replicate?

Superman fought similar people compared to Thanos and didn't fair to good against them (Despero and Titus just to name a few).

Originally posted by carver9
Show me where I said that.

Why do you do this to yourself? Both you and I know you've said about as much in the past, all it'll take is some digging. I'm pretty sure that line of thinking is what spawned the battle zone thread.

Originally posted by carver9
I said Gladiator showings against other Heralds puts him above Thor.

😐

You think Gladiator has combat showings against Heralds or whatever that put him above Thor physically? I refuse to believe you're that ignorant.

Blood and Thunder alone completely destroys your chances of ever winning such a debate.

^Superman took a nebula sized (700 light years across) sun eater blast while extremely weakened by red sun energy of several suns it had absorbed. PC validus was almost killed by a chunk of sun eater exploding.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Why do you do this to yourself? Both you and I know you've said about as much in the past, all it'll take is some digging. I'm pretty sure that line of thinking is what spawned the battle zone thread.

😐

You think Gladiator has combat showings against Heralds or whatever that put him above Thor physically? I refuse to believe you're that ignorant.

Blood and Thunder alone completely destroys your chances of ever winning such a debate.

I might have brought up the planetary ft but I didn't use it as a "single"instance of Gladiator being stronger. I brought up other fts.

Gladiator fight against Hyperion was better than Thors. Didn't Thor lose to Hype during their first encounter?

Gladiator showing against Wonderman is more impressive.

Gladiator showing against Nova is more impressive than what Thor did and Glads was toying around.

Thor wouldn't have handled Masterson as easy as Gladiator did. Hell, Thor has faced similar characters as Masterson and had trouble.

Binary fts pretty much puts her above Firelord and we seen how she did against Gladiator.

Originally posted by carver9
Superman fought similar people compared to Thanos and didn't fair to good against them (Despero and Titus just to name a few).

Originally posted by carver9
I might have brought up the planetary ft but I didn't use it as a "single"instance of Gladiator being stronger. I brought up other fts.

Carver, you've said as much, you know this, why deny it? What does that mean?

Originally posted by carver9
Gladiator fight against Hyperion was better than Thors. Didn't Thor lose to Hype during their first encounter?

Gladiator showing against Wonderman is more impressive.

Gladiator showing against Nova is more impressive than what Thor did and Glads was toying around.

Thor wouldn't have handled Masterson as easy as Gladiator did. Hell, Thor has faced similar characters as Masterson and had trouble.

Binary fts pretty much puts her above Firelord and we seen how she did against Gladiator.

- Thor didn't lose to Hyperion in their first encounter, and Thor was specifically holding back as noted in their second encounter where Thor drops him.

- The Odinson has completely outclassed Wonder Man in the past as well.

- Not really.

- If Thor fought a Masterson who was in a similar state of mind as he was against Gladiator, then he'd fair at least as well. As DeFalco made clear in the very first issue of his run, his biggest weakness was mental. Lol, are you implying that Gladiator didn't have trouble against Masterson?

Gladiator cannot win against Thor in combat showings. I've seen every one of his notable battles, the evidence simply doesn't hold up, not when Thor's wrecked Elites and fought Trans to Skyfather level entities multiple times.

Don't waste your time, I'd rape you in such a debate. Still, I don't want to deprive you of your fun, if you're interested, I'll get into it, just don't chicken out half way.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

Gladiator cannot win against Thor in combat showings. I've seen every one of his notable battles, the evidence simply doesn't hold up, not when Thor's wrecked Elites and fought Trans to Skyfather level entities multiple times.

That's pretty much what it boils down to.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Carver, you've said as much, you know this, why deny it? What does that mean?

- Thor didn't lose to Hyperion in their first encounter, and Thor was specifically holding back as noted in their second encounter where Thor drops him.

- The Odinson has completely outclassed Wonder Man in the past as well.

- Not really.

- If Thor fought a Masterson who was in a similar state of mind as he was against Gladiator, then he'd fair at least as well. As DeFalco made clear in the very first issue of his run, his biggest weakness was mental. Lol, are you implying that Gladiator didn't have trouble against Masterson?

Gladiator cannot win against Thor in combat showings. I've seen every one of his notable battles, the evidence simply doesn't hold up, not when Thor's wrecked Elites and fought Trans to Skyfather level entities multiple times.

Don't waste your time, I'd rape you in such a debate. Still, I don't want to deprive you of your fun, if you're interested, I'll get into it, just don't chicken out half way.

Nothing for me to deny. I know what I said.

Thor first fight against Hyperion, he didn't do so good.

Wonderman koed Thor during their first encounter.

If Thor would have fought Masterson, they probably would have stalemated. Masterson couldn't handle a lot of punches from Gladiator. The first punch fatigued him.

Rage...get on my level.

Average showings, Thor isn't beating, let alone tanking attacks from skyfathers/Celestials. He can hardly hang with Savage Hulk.

Originally posted by dmills
That's pretty much what it boils down to.

Stop hyping Rage up.

Originally posted by carver9
Nothing for me to deny. I know what I said.

I don't think you do. Whatever, if you really want to press this, I'll dig for quotes.

Originally posted by carver9
Thor first fight against Hyperion, he didn't do so good.

He didn't do too bad:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/DefeatsHyperion1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/DefeatsHyperion2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/DefeatsHyperion3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/DefeatsHyperion4.jpg

And before you say anything, the reason Mjolnir bounced off Hyperion's chest is because Thor was holding back:
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThrowKnocksDownHyperion.jpg

Unlike Gladiator, he can't afford to use anything even resembling his best or anyone short of Trans gets an auto death.

Originally posted by carver9
Wonderman koed Thor during their first encounter.

*Sigh*

You obviously have no idea what you're talking about but there you go making a baseless claim.

http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/WonderManCheapShot.jpg

"Though not even such a blow can harm the mighty immortal..."

That's definitely a knock out.

Originally posted by carver9
If Thor would have fought Masterson, they probably would have stalemated. Masterson couldn't handle a lot of punches from Gladiator. The first punch fatigued him.

It depends entirely on Masterson's mental state, as DeFalco emphasized, his mind was his biggest weakness. A confident/enraged Masterson can and has stalemated Thor.

Doesn't take away much from the Odinson though, in such a state, Gladiator would get his shit pushed in, whatever speed advantage he has won't be enough to overcome the massive power disparity and at the end when he fought Thor, he had come into his own (He knew how to control Mjolnir, didn't forget that he could control the weather, had experienced a fair number of battles and so on).

I don't think you know what that word means.

Originally posted by carver9
Rage...get on my level.

Average showings, Thor isn't beating, let alone tanking attacks from skyfathers/Celestials. He can hardly hang with Savage Hulk.

So I guess you don't want to compare their respective combat showings then?

Kind of disappointed but not in anyway surprised. Anyone with even a passing knowledge of the character's knows that it's no contest.

Also, Thor's more powerful than Gladiator on average, more so if we use their best showings. Which coincidentally you don't ever have trouble using for Gladiator but for some reason, do when it's Thor.

Originally posted by carver9
Stop hyping Rage up.

Hyping me up?

He simply acknowledges the evidence. If you don't agree, then press the matter and instead of simply correcting you, I'll start comparing records.

Originally posted by abhilegend
So we are taking a specific feat to determine who is stronger? Superman would lose like thanos would have if he didn't BFR thor. Speaking of single feats, how well thanos fared against a black hole?

You dont even know the context to it i bet.

thanos is far above superman physically unless hes bloodlusted or sundipped.

Originally posted by carver9
Superman fought similar people compared to Thanos and didn't fair to good against them (Despero and Titus just to name a few).

Titus walked all over the Justice League.

Superman has beaten Despero.

But I'm sure you knew that and were taking it in to account.

lol @ titus being like thanos though.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I don't think you do. Whatever, if you really want to press this, I'll dig for quotes.

He didn't do too bad:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/DefeatsHyperion1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/DefeatsHyperion2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/DefeatsHyperion3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/DefeatsHyperion4.jpg

And before you say anything, the reason Mjolnir bounced off Hyperion's chest is because Thor was holding back:
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/ThrowKnocksDownHyperion.jpg

Unlike Gladiator, he can't afford to use anything even resembling his best or anyone short of Trans gets an auto death.

*Sigh*

You obviously have no idea what you're talking about but there you go making a baseless claim.

http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/WonderManCheapShot.jpg

"Though not even such a blow can harm the mighty immortal..."

That's definitely a knock out.

It depends entirely on Masterson's mental state, as DeFalco emphasized, his mind was his biggest weakness. A confident/enraged Masterson can and has stalemated Thor.

Doesn't take away much from the Odinson though, in such a state, Gladiator would get his shit pushed in, whatever speed advantage he has won't be enough to overcome the massive power disparity and at the end when he fought Thor, he had come into his own (He knew how to control Mjolnir, didn't forget that he could control the weather, had experienced a fair number of battles and so on).

I don't think you know what that word means.

So I guess you don't want to compare their respective combat showings then?

Kind of disappointed but not in anyway surprised. Anyone with even a passing knowledge of the character's knows that it's no contest.

Also, Thor's more powerful than Gladiator on average, more so if we use their best showings. Which coincidentally you don't ever have trouble using for Gladiator but for some reason, do when it's Thor.

Keep looking because I never said it.

He didn't do that bad but I can tell that Hype probably would have took him in a physical match up. No need to show the scan, I already knew Thor stated he held back. Hyperion has always been a challenge for Thor.

Wonderman worked Thor. He didn't stand a chance against Gladiator though.

Masterson didn't hold back against Glads and still got curbed. He had to sneak attack Gladiator to gain a edge. He lost his confidence because he was looking down at how Gladiator was working everyone. Yes...I do know what the word means...Gladiator punch fatigue/took the energy from Masterson Thor with a single punch and let's not forget...Masterson withstood attacks from Thor without too much trouble.

I admit...Thor is more powerful than Glads...hell, Thor is more powerful than any Herald but in a contest of physical (nothing else included)...Gladiator would kill him.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Titus walked all over the Justice League.

Superman has beaten Despero.

But I'm sure you knew that and were taking it in to account.

lol @ titus being like thanos though.

Titus did nothing that puts him above Thanos.

I know that Superman beat Despero (with a dose of heat vision) and that was a weaker Despero and even if you included that fight, minus heat vision, Despero was physically handling Superman during that encounter.

Originally posted by carver9
Keep looking because I never said it.

Uhuh.

Originally posted by carver9
He didn't do that bad but I can tell that Hype probably would have took him in a physical match up. No need to show the scan, I already knew Thor stated he held back. Hyperion has always been a challenge for Thor.

Not really, Thor hit him with the equivalent of love taps.

As opposed to Gladiator?

Originally posted by carver9
Wonderman worked Thor. He didn't stand a chance against Gladiator though.

Wonder Man sucker punched Thor and all it did was take him off balance. Stop trolling.

Originally posted by carver9
Masterson didn't hold back against Glads and still got curbed. He had to sneak attack Gladiator to gain a edge. He lost his confidence because he was looking down at how Gladiator was working everyone. Yes...I do know what the word means...Gladiator punch fatigue/took the energy from Masterson Thor with a single punch and let's not forget...Masterson withstood attacks from Thor without too much trouble.

He most definitely did. Not his fault Gladiator is moronic. I know, further emphasizing the point of how inexperienced Masterson is and how confidence is his biggest problem.

Fatigue in this context would imply that Masterson was weary or exhausted, he wasn't. At best he was just stunned for the moment.

Originally posted by carver9
I admit...Thor is more powerful than Glads...hell, Thor is more powerful than any Herald but in a contest of physical (nothing else included)...Gladiator would kill him.

Give Gladiator his full power set, and make Thor a flightless brick, Kallark would win. That's about as far as it goes for him.

Anything more, and I disagree. We should do what Bada said, save us some time from all these pointless debates.

Originally posted by carver9
Titus did nothing that puts him above Thanos.

I know that Superman beat Despero (with a dose of heat vision) and that was a weaker Despero and even if you included that fight, minus heat vision, Despero was physically handling Superman during that encounter.

Titus also fought a pre-DOS Superman. Not a current, pre-reboot one.

Not really, and even if you wanted to argue it, Superman had just taken on a bunch of heralds.

And you'd have to prove Despero was weaker.

Originally posted by Nihilist
You do understand Thanos was inside the black hole when it completely closed on him with him inside dont you.

You dont even know the context to it i bet.

Do they ever show him in the Black Hole ? Didnt the Black Hole appear for only a few minutes? Isnt it possible he resisted being pulled in?