Thor vs Gladiator-The Definitive Battle-Feat War

Originally posted by Damborgson
Meh. Instead of making a BZ and not having people show up or make up excuses for either side I decided to just make it a VS thread. If someone makes the BZ down the line then thats fine.

Thor (Odinson) vs Gladiator (Kallark)

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Who wins??

-Striking Power( with Mjolnir )=Glads bc of planet busting feat

-Striking Power(without Mjolnir)=Glads bc of planet busting feat

-Blasting Power=Thor

-Raw Speed=Glads

-Combat Speed=Glads

-Durability=Tie

-Damage Soak=Thor

-Combat Smarts=Thor

-Greats Hyperbolic Statement=Thor

If you thought Carver didn't read comics... well, you'd be right, but...

Not sure where I was going with that, but h1 has even less idea of what goes on there than Carver if that's possible

Nice to know an unquantified planet busting feat somehow makes Gladiator stronger than Thor.

well, it makes him stronger than superman

Originally posted by psycho gundam
well, it makes him stronger than superman

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Originally posted by h1a8
-Strength=gladiator bc of planet busting feat

-Striking Power( with Mjolnir )=Glads bc of planet busting feat

-Striking Power(without Mjolnir)=Glads bc of planet busting feat

-Blasting Power=Thor

-Raw Speed=Glads

-Combat Speed=Glads

-Durability=Tie

-Damage Soak=Thor

-Combat Smarts=Thor

-Greats Hyperbolic Statement=Thor

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Originally posted by dmills
Jobbing has jack to do with his power level. Nice attempt at subterfuge though.

BB beat classic Sphinx. And as was later pointed out, Sphinx would've crushed him easily had he not be caught off guard.

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Your ignorance of the Sphinx has made it dawn on me that dude needs a respect thread. Zop you down?

Oh and just for the lulz...

And that's the Lady Sphinx that tooled your boy Banner. She's less powerful then the real deal who later showed up and took back his shyte lol.

Originally posted by carver9
I'm referring to this scene.

Gladiator owns both Rachel and Korv in 3 panels. By the way, Korvus power reading via Shiar files were off the charts. He was using the Phoenix force...both were.

I know exactly what scene you're referring. Your post was still so misleading that I have trouble believing you actually read the comics.

I guess sucker punching an enhanced Shi'ar and Human is......cool? I don't know what word to use as it's certainly not impressive compared to Thor's record. The fact that he can't fully knock out either Korvus or Rachel is probably a bit sad.

The only thing special about Korvus is that his sword possessed an infinitesimal part of the Phoenix force:

Besides that, he had some low level superhuman stats.

Also, Gladiator doesn't fair very well when the tables are turned:

He can't beat Rachel straight up either:

Something I'd like to remind people Thor has done.

I haven't even posted any Thor feats yet and Gladiator already looks bad. Thor wins this shit by default.

Originally posted by h1a8

-Strength=gladiator bc of planet busting feat

-Striking Power( with Mjolnir )=Glads bc of planet busting feat

-Striking Power(without Mjolnir)=Glads bc of planet busting feat

LOL Wow that must of been one huge indestructible piece of rock

Originally posted by h1a8
-Strength=gladiator bc of planet busting feat

-Striking Power( with Mjolnir )=Glads bc of planet busting feat

-Striking Power(without Mjolnir)=Glads bc of planet busting feat

-Blasting Power=Thor

-Raw Speed=Glads

-Combat Speed=Glads

-Durability=Tie

-Damage Soak=Thor

-Combat Smarts=Thor

-Greats Hyperbolic Statement=Thor

So Gladiator is stronger and can hit harder because in your opinion he has the superior strength feat.

Yet Thor is equal to Gladiator in durability despite having far more impressive durability showings.

Thor also has superior strength showings.

The definition of double standards.

Lol at Gladiator having superior striking power to Thor with Mjolnir. I'd certainly like to see you argue that.

Beta Ray Bill alone one shotted a planet indirectly by hitting Stardust. Gladiator on the other hand took 4 direct hits to achieve the same level of destruction. I mention Bill because you seem to have a hard on for planetary bodies for some reason, Thor has far superior showings to planet smashing.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I know exactly what scene you're referring. Your post was still so misleading that I have trouble believing you actually read the comics.

I guess sucker punching an enhanced Shi'ar and Human is......cool? I don't know what word to use as it's certainly not impressive compared to Thor's record. The fact that he can't fully knock out either Korvus or Rachel is probably a bit sad.

The only thing special about Korvus is that his sword possessed an infinitesimal part of the Phoenix force:

Besides that, he had some low level superhuman stats.

Also, Gladiator doesn't fair very well when the tables are turned:

He can't beat Rachel straight up either:

Something I'd like to remind people Thor has done.

I haven't even posted any Thor feats yet and Gladiator already looks bad. Thor wins this shit by default.

I guess you still don't know the scene I am talking about because if you did...you wouldn't be downplaying it right now.

As for your post involving Rachel...lol. That was a highlighting moment for Rachel and she gets a punch in and you are satisfied...WTF. Their encounters throughout the War didn't go so well for her...look at their next encounter.

She wasn't a challenge for him. She got one shotted TWICE.

Thor beat Rachel by redirecting her attack via Mjlonir. He didn't physically take her on like Gladiator did and he sure as hell didn't one shot her twice like Gladiator did.

Lol at you using Korvus backstabbing Gladiator with the Force as some type of legit argument. Gladiator owned him twice as well.

Your scans failed Rage. Get yow game up

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
So Gladiator is stronger and can hit harder because in your opinion he has the superior strength feat.

Yet Thor is equal to Gladiator in durability despite having far more impressive durability showings.

Thor also has superior strength showings.

The definition of double standards.

Lol at Gladiator having superior striking power to Thor with Mjolnir. I'd certainly like to see you argue that.

Beta Ray Bill alone one shotted a planet indirectly by hitting Stardust. Gladiator on the other hand took 4 direct hits to achieve the same level of destruction. I mention Bill because you seem to have a hard on for planetary bodies for some reason, Thor has far superior showings to planet smashing.

All of this is a lie.

Originally posted by carver9
I guess you still don't know the scene I am talking about because if you did...you wouldn't be downplaying it right now.

I honestly don't even know what you're talking about at this point. How can I be downplaying a scene that I don't know about?

After Gladiator gets punked, he gets a kick in after Vulcan attacks Korvus and retreats:

Is that what you're referring to? I left that out because Gladiator not being able to even stun Korvus with a kick is a pretty shitty showing of strength. Not very impressive at all.

Originally posted by carver9
As for your post involving Rachel...lol. That was a highlighting moment for Rachel and she gets a punch in and you are satisfied...WTF. Their encounters throughout the War didn't go so well for her...look at their next encounter.

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Gladiator couldn't beat Rachel in a straight up fight, that's my point. Being able to sucker punch someone who at best has low level superhuman base stats is hardly impressive. The fact that you're harping on that scene so much is actually very telling.

Gladiator's really short on feats isn't he?

Originally posted by carver9
She wasn't a challenge for him. She got one shotted TWICE.

First of all, Rachel didn't have her portion of the Phoenix Force at that point and was noticeably depowered. Second of all, being able to momentarily down Rachel is not particularly impressive.

Thor one shots Korvac's wife, who possesses all of his cosmic might:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v282/Ironboy/dd/Avengers177-16.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v282/Ironboy/dd/Avengers177-17.jpg

Notice how I don't use that scene as evidence that Thor can kill Cosmic Beings? Apply some common sense.

Originally posted by carver9
Thor beat Rachel by redirecting her attack via Mjlonir. He didn't physically take her on like Gladiator did and he sure as hell didn't one shot her twice like Gladiator did.

This:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/DefeatsRachelPhoenix2.jpg

Is much more impressive than sucker punching Rachel and then blitzing her when she was deprived of the force.

I don't like nitpicking feats, but I'm not going to sit here and let you turn them into something they're not.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol at you using Korvus backstabbing Gladiator with the Force as some type of legit argument. Gladiator owned him twice as well.

I wasn't trying to make any argument. I was pointing out that anyone can be sucker punched and when the tables are turned, it hardly goes well for Gladiator.

I find it really sad that you are so obsessed with Gladiator being able to temporarily down low level superhumans.

Originally posted by carver9
Your scans failed Rage. Get yow game up

Uhuh.

Later on today, I'll get to posting some of Thor's feats. If you think Gladiator looks bad now, wait until his compared to Thor's far superior combat record.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

This:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/DefeatsRachelPhoenix2.jpg

Is much more impressive than sucker punching Rachel and then blitzing her when she was deprived of the force.

Yep Thor actually says her power is nothing compared with his. And the narrator also says Thor was already groggy when she attacked.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
IIRC the Hulk and some of the other characters were not from 616 reality.

They were all from 616 reality. The Sphinx altered things to reflect her vision of the world, but after she was defeated she returned it all to normal. The heroes all had faint memories of the event. Exactly like what happened during the Infinity Gauntlet when Thanos killed a bunch of heroes, and then Nebula turned it all back to normal when she got a hold of the gauntlet.

Originally posted by zopzop
Fail thread.

A-list character with his own comic and 40+ years of history plus countless guest appearances vs second string Superman clone with no comic of his own and only a handful of appearances since his creation.

Thor wins.

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Originally posted by psycho gundam
well, it makes him stronger than superman

Actually it takes a lot less force to bust a planet than to greatly accelerate it. So Superman still is a lot stronger than Glads.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Nice to know an unquantified planet busting feat somehow makes Gladiator stronger than Thor.

It's lower bound quantifiable since it has a minimum force needed to achieve the feat. The minimum force can be calculated by assuming it is the smallest planet possible to support an atmosphere (Mars size) and to calculate the energy needed to overcome the gravitational energy and divide that by say 4 punches. Thor would need his hammer to achieve such a feat. Even with the hammer I'm not sure that Thor at his best could achieve that feat.

Originally posted by h1a8
It's lower bound quantifiable since it has a minimum force needed to achieve the feat. The minimum force can be calculated by assuming it is the smallest planet possible to support an atmosphere (Mars size) and to calculate the energy needed to overcome the gravitational energy and divide that by say 4 punches. Thor would need his hammer to achieve such a feat. Even with the hammer I'm not sure that Thor at his best could achieve that feat.

Red Alert; physics background detects a failure in the quoted field and must respond to the error immediately (off topic):

Mars in NOT the smallest planet possible capable of supporting an atmosphere (even the dwarf planet Pluto supports a tenuous atmosphere); there are even moons in our very solar system less massive than Mars that support atmospheres...

A powerful, global, magnetic field is far more important than mass when it comes to supporting an atmosphere; if a world lacks the ability to fend off a stars solar wind, it will eventually be completely stripped of its atmosphere regardless of the mass it possesses...

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Strength - Even mostly. Thor's beyond him when we consider stuff like Warrior Madness.