Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Alan's ring =/= A GL ring.His power is completely internalized due to the Starheart. He doesn't even have blood to manipulate; he's living energy, and I HIGHLY doubt Magneto could manipulate the Starheart better than Alan could.
Alan would rage all over Magneto.
Proteus>Alan. Magneto manipulated him easily.
Celestial>Alan... Magneto controlled it easily.
Originally posted by carver9
Why wouldn't he when it has been shown that the rings can be controlled via Magnetism. He can also control their blood and Magneto is an expert at manipulating energy (which majority of these beings consist of.Martian Manhunter blood is rich with Iron. Poloris had him vomiting blood.
And rings can resist magnetism. the blood thing is also debatable.
No, it isn't. Jonn's blood is made of whatever he wants it to be made of. That was bad, and most importantly, inconsistent writing, and won't hold up in a debate against all the J'onn scans talking about his make-up.
Originally posted by carver9
Proteus>Alan. Magneto manipulated him easily.Celestial>Alan... Magneto controlled it easily.
ABC logic = bad.
Originally posted by -Pr-
And rings can resist magnetism. the blood thing is also debatable.No, it isn't. Jonn's blood is made of whatever he wants it to be made of. That was bad, and most importantly, inconsistent writing, and won't hold up in a debate against all the J'onn scans talking about his make-up.
ABC logic = bad.
The ring has been manipulated though. Poloris had Hal (I think that was Hal or either Kyle...can't remember) beating himself in the face. Do you know of a instance countering this? Was Poloris or any other Magnetic being unable to manipulate the ring to counter what happened on panel.
Did Jon face Poloris again and countered his Magnetic attack because on panel, he was dying from Poloris attack.
Proteus didn't have control over his own energy, which is what enabled Magneto to beat him. "Electrons dancing", iirc the line.
That method would fail against Alan. Unless Magneto has feats manipulating top tier mystical energy, I'm not going to assume he could do the same to Alan Scott, who's > standard GLs.
Originally posted by carver9
The ring has been manipulated though. Poloris had Hal (I think that was Hal or either Kyle...can't remember) beating himself in the face. Do you know of a instance countering this? Was Poloris or any other Magnetic being unable to manipulate the ring to counter what happened on panel.Did Jon face Poloris again and countered his Magnetic attack because on panel, he was dying from Poloris attack.
Yes, when they demagnetised it. Ring shields can also block psionic signals.
You're not listening. The instance in JLA with Polaris contradicts established J'onn biology. It's an exception to the rule, it's bad writing, and it should have never happened. J'onn can control every molecule in his body; he's regrown from a hand, and even grew himself a new organ for telepathy when he lost the ability. If he doesn't want iron in his body, he doesn't have iron in his body. Simple.
Originally posted by carver9
By the way...Magneto has tons of fts manipulating energy...a Gl would just be another source of energy that would fall to Magneto.
Which is nothing more than speculation.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Yes, when they demagnetised it. Ring shields can also block psionic signals.You're not listening. The instance in JLA with Polaris contradicts established J'onn biology. It's an exception to the rule, it's bad writing, and it should have never happened. J'onn can control every molecule in his body; he's regrown from a hand, and even grew himself a new organ for telepathy when he lost the ability. If he doesn't want iron in his body, he doesn't have iron in his body. Simple.
Which is nothing more than speculation.
Dang....I guess since you got so forceful in this post...I guess that mean you don't want me to reply.
😕
I'll let you have this one.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Proteus didn't have control over his own energy, which is what enabled Magneto to beat him. "Electrons dancing", iirc the line.That method would fail against Alan. Unless Magneto has feats manipulating top tier mystical energy, I'm not going to assume he could do the same to Alan Scott, who's > standard GLs.
Proteus had control, he just couldn't overcome Magneto manipulation of his power.
I don't understand why you don't believe he could do the same to Alan. Magneto has other ways of defeating these individuals as well. I just chose the easiest rout. You all are underestimating Magneto.
Magneto also Manipulated the Phoenix Force me thinks. Didn't this happen during the time him and the XMen were trapped in the core of a Volcano?
Originally posted by carver9
Dang....I guess since you got so forceful in this post...I guess that mean you don't want me to reply.😕
I'll let you have this one.
pr1983
Originally posted by carver9
Proteus had control, he just couldn't overcome Magneto manipulation of his power.I don't understand why you don't believe he could do the same to Alan. Magneto has other ways of defeating these individuals as well. I just chose the easiest rout. You all are underestimating Magneto.
Magneto also Manipulated the Phoenix Force me thinks. Didn't this happen during the time him and the XMen were trapped in the core of a Volcano?
And all these people will just stand there while Magneto takes his merry time defeating them, right?
Originally posted by -Pr-
pr1983And all these people will just stand there while Magneto takes his merry time defeating them, right?
Naah, Magneto has partners as well and whoever he is fighting will have trouble bypassing his forcefield. Magneto versatility along with his other tricks can pull him some wins against almost anyone on the battlefield.
Originally posted by carver9
Proteus had control, he just couldn't overcome Magneto manipulation of his power.I don't understand why you don't believe he could do the same to Alan. Magneto has other ways of defeating these individuals as well. I just chose the easiest rout. You all are underestimating Magneto.
Magneto also Manipulated the Phoenix Force me thinks. Didn't this happen during the time him and the XMen were trapped in the core of a Volcano?
It's obvious you don't know who Alan Scott is.