Battle of the Heavy Hitters (Last Man Standing)

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
No, he had Mjolnir against those guys, but even without it, he can still use the GB (as he did to destroy Durok)...

And given that he will be Bloodlusted, you can bet that anyone that he uses it against will get one the same magnitude as the one he used on Exitar (the one that was used against Classic Juggs was performed by a Thor that had been weakened by Hela's curse)...

And current Thor can reproduce that level of attack sans Mjolnir in the confines of this fight?

Originally posted by Mr.Mxyzptlk
Assuming said God Blast can wreck ~Skyfather beings sans Mjolnir.

Just because Thor doesn't require Mjolnir to do it doesn't make it 'hand to hand'. Thor can also control weather without his hammer, and that move would be illegal here.

Originally posted by snowdragon
Isn't the GB when Thor focuses the OF?

Nope, the GB is when Thor focus's his Godly Lifeforce into an energy attack...

Originally posted by Existere
I was being sarcastic. The godblast shouldn't be allowed in a match that's strictly hand to hand combat any more than Despero should be allowed to use telepathy mid match, etc.

Just because Thor doesn't require Mjolnir to do it doesn't make it 'hand to hand'. Thor can also control weather without his hammer, and that move would be illegal here.

I'm basically just trying to set up the fact that Lobo's confinement in Hell during Reign in Hell would have killed beings weaker than Etrigan or Blue Devil by just approaching it and that the full down pour of it would have killed Neron outright.

So while I'd entertain Thor trying a Mjolnir-less god blast in what is a strictly h2h fight, I was dubious of it being more than Lobo can tank and soak.

Originally posted by Existere
I was being sarcastic. The godblast shouldn't be allowed in a match that's strictly hand to hand combat any more than Despero should be allowed to use telepathy mid match, etc.

Just because Thor doesn't require Mjolnir to do it doesn't make it 'hand to hand'. Thor can also control weather without his hammer, and that move would be illegal here.

Eh...good point!

🙂

In that case, Classic Juggs and The Hulk stalemate...

Hulk ftw

He-Man!!!!

I HAVE THE POWEEEERRRRRR!!!!

Originally posted by Mr.Mxyzptlk
And current Thor can reproduce that level of attack sans Mjolnir in the confines of this fight?

This battle is an all on the line, balls to the walls fight. All combatants fight to the best of their abilities. If Thor can produce the God Blast without Mjolnir, and the Odin Force, then it is permitted within the confines of this battle, and is not going against the rules. The Hulk is allowed to explode into a torrent of solar energy, so I don't see why Thor is somehow neutered from using everything at his disposal. Just that we are clear on this. NO TP this goes outside of the realms of the physical, and borders on the mystical or abstract/non tangible.

The same goes for all of the rest of the combatants, and yes the world that they battle on is impossible to be destroyed.

His Durok Dropper was without Mjolnir and the Odin Force and if the OP is okay with it, it's a valid technique. By that line of reasoning, does this also include Thor's weather manipulation?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
His Durok Dropper was without Mjolnir and the Odin Force and if the OP is okay with it, it's a valid technique. By that line of reasoning, does this also include Thor's weather manipulation?

If it's physical, it is permitted. I am not neutering any of the combatants physical assaults. If Thor can be proven to be the King of the Hill, then so be it. However how does any of those assaults put down HP Doomsday? Hmmm.

Originally posted by Stoic
If it's physical, it is permitted. I am not neutering any of the combatants physical assaults. If Thor can be proven to be the King of the Hill, then so be it. However how does any of those assaults put down HP Doomsday? Hmmm.

They likely don't. And personally, I don't think Thor wins this, but I do think his ability to effect multiple combatants with his powers will be a factor to who does win this in the end.

Also, if H/P Doomsday is killed once, is he eliminated?

sorry also is this hand to hand or can they use other powers?

pure h2h no bfr

Juggernaut obviously wins.......

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
They likely don't. And personally, I don't think Thor wins this, but I do think his ability to effect multiple combatants with his powers will be a factor to who does win this in the end.

Also, if H/P Doomsday is killed once, is he eliminated?

He would be eliminated. In the event of death, or KO, the combatant in question is whisked away from the battlefield. However can it truly be proven, that Darkseid's Omega Effect killed him or KO'ed Doomsday during Hunter Prey? I have yet to be fully convinced of this. Nowhere did it state this in that story.

THe list is already a fail list because it says Heavy Hitters and Thanos isn't on there...

Originally posted by Stoic
However can it truly be proven, that Darkseid's Omega Effect killed him or KO'ed Doomsday during Hunter Prey? I have yet to be fully convinced of this. Nowhere did it state this in that story.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
THe list is already a fail list because it says Heavy Hitters and Thanos isn't on there...

I thought of putting Thanos in it, but I didn't want to exceed 10 combatants. It's already hard enough to debate the winner with this amount of guys on the field.

Originally posted by ozz81
sorry also is this hand to hand or can they use other powers?

If those powers are of a physical nature, and not bordering on the abstract, like preventing the opposing character from throwing punches, and sitting in a pile of their own manure, then it is permitted.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
It's proven if you think Darkseid's word of someone else is absolute proof (where he's wrong either way), and if you think Doomsday can come back to life in what, like 10 seconds?

In all of the rest of the times that Doomsday was put down, it took more than 10 seconds. This is why I am on the fence about the Hunter Prey Omega take down. For example, Imperiex, turned Doomsday to bones (on panel), and it took far longer than 10 seconds for Doomsday to come back. You see my reasoning?

probably thor if he used G.B or even thermoblast & antiforce etc, then hulk , juggernaught, lobo....