^ Thunderbolt is a d'jinn/genie--ie. he requires orders from his master before he can act. He's still 5-d imp, but lacks conventional free will. The only "mite" I know of is Bat-Mite, and he is literally part of Mxy's own power and can act independently.
Naturally, the 'weakest' 5-d beings would be d'jinn--as they have to rely on orders from finite mortal beings before they can act. However, the d'jinn themselves are still nigh-omnipotent. Proof of this was seen when a berserk Jakeem had T-bolt conquer the entire 8th dimension.
^ The argument could be made that there's no real evidence proving the creators (Beyonders) possess =/> power than their creations (CCUs.) Humans, for instance, created the hydrogen bomb--yet we certainly don't possess anywhere near that degree of destructive power by ourselves.
However, I'm not going to make that argument. I'm just going to point out that Mxy, a single 5-D imp, destroyed the entirety of DC continuity (a multiverse++) and recreated it all with a literal *snap*. Hell, even a tiny fraction of Mxy's power (Bat-Mite) destroyed Spectre, along with the entire universe they were in. ie. a fraction of an imp's power=universal+... And like I mentioned before: it was outright stated that Qwsp (essentially a "no name" imp) had absolute control of time and Hypertime--which represents infinitely more than universal power. Point being: that degree of power seems to be 'standard' for imps across the board.
Originally posted by Galan007 ^ Thunderbolt is a d'jinn/genie--ie. he requires orders from his master before he can act. He's still 5-d imp, but lacks conventional free will. The only "mite" I know of is Bat-Mite, and he is literally part of Mxy's own power and can act independently. Naturally, the 'weakest' 5-d beings would be d'jinn--as they have to rely on orders from finite mortal beings before they can act. However, the d'jinn themselves are still nigh-omnipotent. Proof of this was seen when a berserk Jakeem had T-bolt conquer the entire 8th dimension.
wasnt there another ttpe of d jinn in that jla one shot where they travelled to egypt? and i could have sworn i heard of another mite somewhere.
Originally posted by Galan007
^ The argument could be made that there's no real evidence proving the creators (Beyonders) possess =/> power than their creations (CCUs.) Humans, for instance, created the hydrogen bomb--yet we certainly don't possess anywhere near that degree of destructive power by ourselves.However, I'm not going to make that argument. I'm just going to point out that Mxy, a single 5-D imp, destroyed the entirety of DC continuity (a multiverse++) and recreated it all with a literal *snap*. Hell, even a tiny fraction of Mxy's power (Bat-Mite) destroyed Spectre, along with the entire universe they were in. ie. a fraction of an imp's power=universal+... And like I mentioned before: it was outright stated that Qwsp (essentially a "no name" imp) had absolute control of time and Hypertime--which represents infinitely more than universal power. Point being: that degree of power seems to be 'standard' for imps across the board.
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Originally posted by Prep-ManThere are several d'jinn--Thunderbolt alone has a son and a daughter (both of which are d'jinn.) They're still 5th dimensional beings, though. And just to clarify: some d'jinn can act independently of their master if a strong enough need arises--much the same as when imps bypass the "name backwards weakness." It's just not what they're supposed to do.
wasnt there another ttpe of d jinn in that jla one shot where they travelled to egypt? and i could have sworn i heard of another mite somewhere.
If another Mite popped up somewhere, it was a LONG time ago.
I thought post Crisis that the "name backwards" was just a condition that Mxy sometimes uses for his games with Superman.
I could have sworn there was a time when the condition was that he had to make Mxy's face blue and when he appeared as the twins Mxy banishment condition was that someone had to buy their entire encyclopedia set.
Originally posted by Galan007mxy was a troll from the beginning he's never outright malicious though. At least not in his god-mode incarnations. I've always likened him and the other imps as an odd sort of mischievous Tom Bombadil. So absurdly powerful that our comprehension of what constitutes winning and losing/ all other perceptions really don't matter.
^ Mxy has shown a few times now that the name backwards 'weakness' is a self-imposed limitation/rule--one that he can bypass whenever he chooses.
Originally posted by Galan007
There are several d'jinn--Thunderbolt alone has a son and a daughter (both of which are d'jinn.) They're still 5th dimensional beings, though. And just to clarify: some d'jinn can act independently of their master if a strong enough need arises--much the same as when imps bypass the "name backwards weakness." It's just not what they're supposed to do.If another Mite popped up somewhere, it was a LONG time ago.
Isn't Mopee an Imp?
^ Yep.
And though he only appeared in a few issues, Mopee managed to make quite a large splash in continuity... Not only was he responsible for gifting Barry Allen with his super-speed, but he apparently caused several detrimental events in DC, Marvel, and the 'real world' to occur, as well:
...Imps are just crazy powerful.
Originally posted by Uriel005
mxy was a troll from the beginning he's never outright malicious though. At least not in his god-mode incarnations. I've always likened him and the other imps as an odd sort of mischievous Tom Bombadil. So absurdly powerful that our comprehension of what constitutes winning and losing/ all other perceptions really don't matter.
There was one story that did show Mxy as evil, back when Superman exiled himself into space. It was pretty chilling stuff... He was hospitalizing Lexcorp members by having their suits "transform" like transformers, breaking every bone in their body. Lex ended up tricking him into going into a room by making a false promise, and had over half a dozen automatic weapons open fire, which didn't kill him, but did send him away in a rage... Only, Mxy learned how to tell lies from the experience.
Thank goodness this evil Mxy was short lived.
Morrison imps were insanely powerful. I think Johns also wrote them as powerful, when the group went and saved Johnny Thunderbolt from Qwsp. Thunderbolt punked Mordru in that story, as I recall.
Although he also wrote Imps as being "catchable" with the right tools, as this sorcerer use a knife made from the bones of old gods to capture Qwsp.
Kind of like how those new cosmic Pokemen can warp time and space, but still be captured by a Pokeball, I guess..
