Blade and Vampire Hunter D vs. Alucard

I doubt something as mundane as the killing of Alucard's heart would be the death of him. The one time he was nearly killed, it was because Anderson was wielding the power of Jesus Christ himself.

This was stated and implied by Alucard himself. The death of a vampire's heart is a stereotypical weakness... and Alucard has quite a few of those traditional weaknesses left in him. Killing his heart is one of them. I can prove this because Alucard (without any lives inside of him) was decapicitated by a very holy bayonet wielded by Anderson augmented with the Nail of Helena (which was blessed by JC) and regenerated easily. And yet a base Alucard (but with millions of lives) had to take a very different way from regenerating when a weaker Anderson stabbed bayonets into his heart (which would kill his heart) by constructing a new body from bats that appeared out nof nowhere. This was the only time shown when Alucard had to take this way out and the first time from the start of the series that Alucard lost a life/soul.

Who cares? Alucard with the power of Schrodinger is almost unkillable. Nothing except high-level telepathy or something could stop him.

Edit: Welp, I guess this is pre-schrodinger. In that case I don't see him winning based off of D's feats.

Originally posted by Radunuya
This was stated and implied by Alucard himself. The death of a vampire's heart is a stereotypical weakness... and Alucard has quite a few of those traditional weaknesses left in him. Killing his heart is one of them. I can prove this because Alucard (without any lives inside of him) was decapicitated by a very holy bayonet wielded by Anderson augmented with the Nail of Helena (which was blessed by JC) and regenerated easily. And yet a base Alucard (but with millions of lives) had to take a very different way from regenerating when a weaker Anderson stabbed bayonets into his heart (which would kill his heart) by constructing a new body from bats that appeared out nof nowhere. This was the only time shown when Alucard had to take this way out and the first time from the start of the series that Alucard lost a life/soul.

He was toying with Anderson the first time they fought, (And trying to get Seras to drink his blood) hence, why Integra laughed at him and actually pointed out that you could not kill Alucard by any conventional means.

Who cares? Alucard with the power of Schrodinger is almost unkillable. Nothing except high-level telepathy or something could stop him.

Edit: Welp, I guess this is pre-schrodinger. In that case I don't see him winning based off of D's feats.

What are D's feats in the anime, since that's apparently all that's allowed.

Where does it say that?

Originally posted by Trackz
As for D, this D only from the anime.

D's anime feats pail in comparrison to his novel counterpart. If this is only anime D then Alucard wins.

This is weird but I didn't know Blade had an anime incarnation 🙁

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
D's anime feats pail in comparrison to his novel counterpart. If this is only anime D then Alucard wins.

This is weird but I didn't know Blade had an anime incarnation 🙁

D can still absorb opponents and he has incredible speed and strength.

Blade's speed and strength are on par with D's only he has some insane sword techniques that allow him instant kills with most opponents.

Originally posted by Radunuya
This reminds me of Alucard's performance against Rip Van Winkle. Unless Blade travels at speeds high in the hypersonic range while transforming into this energy streak, Alucard casually catches him.

Blade outlast millions of undead familiars, all of which are set to hunt down a target of Alucard's for all of eternity? No. Can D do it? I'm sure he can.

Such as.... (and what is the firepower behind those techniques)

What is his third technique? I'm pretty sure that a magic homing bullet is fast enough to blitz Blade. What are Blade's reflex feats? He plowed through a colony? And what is the population of this clan and what did it consist of? It seems that you're confusing the ghouls in Alucard's familiar army for vampires. They're not vampires (that would be even more devastating) except for two. The rest are zombies who were either warriors or normal humans in life and can use the same abilities they had when they were alive.

In Alucard's case, it'd be running rivers/oceans, very holy weaponry, and the death of his heart.

I've seen Alucard's fights, none of them appeared to be hypersonic...he's hit by bullets regularly, regardless Blade turns into a flash of flight and various streaks of energy shoot past his opponent, one of them turns into Blade and he stabs through his opponent.

Blade and D's anime feats in terms of strength and speed are identical. Save for the Fact that D has some sort of magical force field and can absorb vampiric forms while Blade has mystical sword techniques.

It was a city of vampires, pure bloods and mutant vampires and he plowed through them to get to deacon frost (he didn't kill all of them, but they couldn't stop him)

you can watch a couple of episodes to familiarize yourself with the techniques, all the episodes are online.

I recommend episodes 5, 8, and 12 to see what he's capable of.

Well its not like Alucard is slow. He is a casual bullet-timer afterall and he can call upon an estimated 200,000,000 souls as familiars if he needs chaff or more followers.

Rip van Winkle's bullet danced around Alucard's spy plane going at Mach 2.8 and with a single shot, tore through several missiles and their planes before they could hit the Eagle aircraft carrier.

Alucard caught this bullet with his teeth.

Dandy Man is a casual bullet timer, to the point he was swatting Seras' machine gun bullets out of the air as if they were a mild annoyance. Alucard was capable of moving faster then the Dandy Man could react. The only time Alucard is hit by bullets is when he lets himself be hit by them.

Originally posted by FinalAnswer
The only time Alucard is hit by bullets is when he lets himself be hit by them.

I'm stealing this and inserting the names of any character I want.

Except Alucards fighting style is literally to stand completely still, allow himself to get hit, regenerate and then curbstomp his opponent.

Against bullets at least.

I've seen Alucard's fights, none of them appeared to be hypersonic...he's hit by bullets regularly, regardless Blade turns into a flash of flight and various streaks of energy shoot past his opponent, one of them turns into Blade and he stabs through his opponent.

It was a city of vampires, pure bloods and mutant vampires and he plowed through them to get to deacon frost (he didn't kill all of them, but they couldn't stop him)

I'll watch the episodes then and see his feats.

Oh and uh, in what form does Alucard start off in this battle? Does he start out as base or already in Level 0?

Originally posted by Radunuya
and blitzed Alexander Anderson in his strongest form (who easily kept up with supersonic vampires and is much faster than them).

Nail Anderson is actually the only character I would say is faster then Alucard, seeing as how Anderson basically impaled Alucard through the head before he could react, and Alucard won by telekinetically "burning" Anderson and his thorns so he could rip his heart out.

Originally posted by Radunuya
He easily caught a magic homing bullet that is most likely in the double digits of Mach (the bullet hit the SR-71 who was diving down at full speed beyond Mach 2.8 speeds at least four times within what seems to be a second's span) on his first try, though that's a reflex feat. As for speed feats, he casually blitzed artificial and natural vampires who are all casual bullet timers. He was moving at equal speeds with Vampire Walter (who is undeniably in the hypersonic range), appeared as a glint of light to Tubalcain Alhambra while moving up a building (who has hypersonic reactions given that the man can consecutively deflect bullets from a large assasult rifle fired by Seras Victoria despite the entire area being covered by smoke, a cannon launcher that has the power to take out tanks, and easily deflected a Jackal bullet fired behind him from a meter away, and blitzed Alexander Anderson in his strongest form (who easily kept up with supersonic vampires and is much faster than them).

I'll watch the episodes then and see his feats.

Oh and uh, in what form does Alucard start off in this battle? Does he start out as base or already in Level 0?

That's a bit of an extrapolation, I feel like it's common place to have characters bullet dodge, Blade has done the same (in fact in the instant while a bullet was being fired he took out a pure blood) but I don't think we are supposed to assume these characters can outrun bullets and what not.

Originally posted by Trackz
That's a bit of an extrapolation, I feel like it's common place to have characters bullet dodge, Blade has done the same (in fact in the instant while a bullet was being fired he took out a pure blood) but I don't think we are supposed to assume these characters can outrun bullets and what not.

Originally posted by FinalAnswer
Nail Anderson is actually the only character I would say is faster then Alucard, seeing as how Anderson basically impaled Alucard through the head before he could react, and Alucard won by telekinetically "burning" Anderson and his thorns so he could rip his heart out.

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Originally posted by Trackz
That's a bit of an extrapolation, I feel like it's common place to have characters bullet dodge, Blade has done the same (in fact in the instant while a bullet was being fired he took out a pure blood) but I don't think we are supposed to assume these characters can outrun bullets and what not.

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Originally posted by Radunuya
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Um..... no. He shattered the bayonet and the thorns with brute strength while having half of his body vertically sliced. And even if he did use telekinesis, he shapeshifted into his "Count" form giving Anderson enough time to recover from whatever surprise he might have experienced and still being a few meters away from him. From then, he outright launched towards Anderson and hit him before HE CAN REACT, whereas Anderson's only speed feat with the Nail is cutting off Alucard's head and arm while in point blank range of him and that's back when Alucard was still relying on guns that inflict minimal damage to Anderson. I don't consider the other instance where his bayonets hit him as a speed feat but as a strength feat as it was merely the attack speed of the bayonet decided by Anderson's throwing strength. Anderson cannot be faster than Alucard.

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I'm having trouble understanding your point with my list of speed feats, maybe it's because I haven't observed the scene where Blade took someone out while a bullet was being fired _or your statement regarding Blade is actually irrelevant as a speed/reflex feat because it's not detailed enough (I will gladly elaborate on the feats I've listed however if need be). For example, if a bullet was being fired ten countries away at the time Blade took out someone, then the considerable distance will exclude it as a speed feat and I don't see how any if the feats I've listed are as vague as that (I think they're pretty straightforward as it is) unless it regards how much attention the victim was paying and direction. Looking at the post ^^ which I think is to suggest that you're saying that Alucard could have simply aim-dodged the magic bullet instead of bullet timing and that I'm applying a reflex=speed fallacy, I can ensure you that I'm lost to how that conclusion had been reached (particularly if you've read or watched Hellsing and observed it right). But I'm pretty sure that they're quantifiable as it is. _ _

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Even if he wasn't aim dodging, it doesn't mean he can move at the same speed as a bullet, people react to baseballs all the time that doesn't mean people can move any where near 90 mph. I don't doubt he has extraordinary reaction time, bullet dodging, even after the bullet is fired, is common place in anime.

In episode 7 a thug fires a bullet then the scene slows down the vampire sees the bullet turns around as the bullet is coming towards him and blades dodges it and while they're both doding the bullet blade slices the vampire in half.

My main point is that I highly doubt any of these characters are meant to move at mach speed. They have super human speed, definitely. Mach speed? Unlikely.

Originally posted by Radunuya
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Um..... no. He shattered the bayonet and the thorns with brute strength while having half of his body vertically sliced. And even if he did use telekinesis, he shapeshifted into his "Count" form giving Anderson enough time to recover from whatever surprise he might have experienced and still being a few meters away from him. From then, he outright launched towards Anderson and hit him before HE CAN REACT, whereas Anderson's only speed feat with the Nail is cutting off Alucard's head and arm while in point blank range of him and that's back when Alucard was still relying on guns that inflict minimal damage to Anderson. I don't consider the other instance where his bayonets hit him as a speed feat but as a strength feat as it was merely the attack speed of the bayonet decided by Anderson's throwing strength. Anderson cannot be faster than Alucard.

I dun know what you're talking about, but

http://www.mangareader.net/205-13794-8/hellsing/chapter-69.html

There and the next page. Anderson stabs Alucard through the head before he could even fire a shot at him. It's not thrown either, as in the chapter after Alucard's flashbacks, you can see Anderson holding the bayonet.

http://www.mangareader.net/205-13797-4/hellsing/chapter-72.html

Notice how the thorns are "dissolving" without actually touching Alucard.

It wasn't so much that Anderson couldn't react, it's that Alucard hulked his way through his attacks and Anderson couldn't do anything.

Originally posted by Trackz
My main point is that I highly doubt any of these characters are meant to move at mach speed. They have super human speed, definitely. Mach speed? Unlikely.

If Alucard was not capable of moving at mach speeds, how did he cross 100 or so feet onto a wall faster then the Dandy Man, a guy who casually swats machine gun bullets out of the air, could react?

Or see, for that matter.