Thanos with a Cosmic Cube vs Galactus with the Ultimate Nullifier...

Originally posted by Magnon
Magus took care of the "big guns" like Eternity and Living Tribunal directly. The other cosmics / abstracts such as Galactus were just pawns to him (as stated by Magus himself). Galactus couldn't even have found Magus without joining forces with Dr. Strange, and even then it was only possible because Magus allowed it.

A Watcher's "perhaps" doesn't have much weight against all the on-panel showings of the CCs in that arc, against Galactus and others.

Eternity has been comatosed by Nightmare and put in a headlock and choked out by the Ancient One. So I'm still not impressed with the Magus and his 5 CCUs putting one M-body of Eternity into a coma.

Aside from Galactus, what other cosmic was involved in that arc? NONE. 5 CCUs sucker attacked Galactus and he was still able to reform himself. 1 Cosmic Cube isn't doing jack to him, especially if he's not starving or near death.

As I already said, the power used against Galactus was only a tiny fraction of the power of the 5 CCUs, and that fraction had to be further toned down so as to NOT kill or permanently harm Galactus. All this was done with indirect control of the Cubes and from dimensions away. The full power of a single CC would annihilate Galactus without any trouble.

Originally posted by Magnon
The full power of a single CC would annihilate Galactus without any trouble.

BS and you know it, unless you can back it up with on panel evidence (and you can't).

Originally posted by zopzop
BS and you know it, unless you can back it up with on panel evidence (and you can't).

I have already given the reasons why I believe a CC >> Galactus in my previous posts. It was, IMO, very clearly established during the Infinity War arc. Five cubes were not *needed* to blast Galactus into pieces, the vast majority of their power was directed elsewhere. And the remaining power could *easily* achieve the feat. There is really no other conclusion to be drawn than CC >> Galactus. The CCs could also easily prevent UN from working.

@zopzop

You know, Magnon has a point; character power levels fluxuate throughout time and in regards to who is writing a story...

Now that issue of the Fantastic Four when Kubik said he (and other Cube Beings) were far below Celestials, is significantly older than the Infinity War/Crusade arc...

Apparently the writer of the IW/Crusade feels that CCU's are significantly stronger than Galactus (hell, this writer feels that an unbound CCU is theoretically equal to the Infinity Gauntlet) as a small portion of their power was sufficient to blast away Galactus...and the Magus wasnt even attempting to destroy him...just delay him.

According to the more recent writing, an unbound CCU>>>>Galactus.

Originally posted by Magnon
As I already said, the power used against Galactus was only a tiny fraction of the power of the 5 CCUs, and that fraction had to be further toned down so as to NOT kill or permanently harm Galactus. All this was done with indirect control of the Cubes and from dimensions away.

This is 100% true....

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I dont think this match up is the slam dunk in the favor of Galactus that some of you think it is...

Thanos, with his powerful will, (in control of a CCU) is a very powerful, dangerous, opponent indeed...

IMHO, I could see them utterly destroying each other as pertains the conditions in the OP...

They wipe each other from existence. The UN is more powerful but Big G can`t withstand Thanos` attack either. Not with these conditions at least.

Originally posted by Magnon

the power used against Galactus was NOT kill or permanently harm Galactus.

All this was done with indirect control of the Cubes and from dimensions away.

The full power of a single CC would annihilate Galactus without any trouble.

Magus was manipulating the entire scenario including the gamma bomb prior to that incident,
it was all in the name of a his grand scheme which included everyone from hero to Cosmic.

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Here's the On Panel proof Magus never intended to permanently kill Galactus,
in fact,
he only meant to slow Galactus down,
cause Galactus was reaching the Universe where the relay transmitters were ahead of Magus' schedule.

So from who knows how many Universes away where the actual CCUs were,
Magus with the click of a switch,
blows Galactus and his mighty ship to pieces which was 3 Universes away from the transmitters.

(Infinity War #3)

But ... as already posted by others, Magus never intended to stop Galactus completely,
only to stall him,
in fact, Magus was even a bit worried that Galactus may not be able to reform.

(Infinity War #4)

Some debates can't go any further, (this particular detail) is one of them.

Originally posted by Mr Master
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Magus was manipulating the entire scenario including the gamma bomb prior to that incident,
it was all in the name of a his grand scheme which included everyone from hero to Cosmic.

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Here's the [b]On Panel proof Magus never intended to permanently kill Galactus,
in fact,
he only meant to slow Galactus down,
cause Galactus was reaching the Universe where the relay transmitters were ahead of Magus' schedule.

So from who knows how many Universes away where the actual CCUs were,
Magus with the click of a switch,
blows Galactus and his mighty ship to pieces which was 3 Universes away from the transmitters.

(Infinity War #3)

But ... as already posted by others, Magus never intended to stop Galactus completely,
only to stall him,
in fact, Magus was even a bit worried that Galactus may not be able to reform.

(Infinity War #4)

Some debates can't go any further, (this particular detail) is one of them. [/B]

You're lucky I'm sufficiently unmotivated to go back and find my Infinity War stuff to continue this discussion. bored