Originally posted by Frisky Dingo
LOL You cannot be serious, right now?! And QS is far from "standard". I specified what Dante had at the OP.Reading is fundamental, son.
How is quicksilver not SE? is apart of him he asorbed it? so please tell me how its not SE
on topic:
How fast is Hisen KO reflexes/reactions?
Re: Dante X Hsien-Ko
Originally posted by Frisky Dingo
-Dante has access to all his styles and DT. He is equipped with Rebellion and Ebony & IVory
So yes, uicksilver, being a style, and not an item, is technically allowed due to your wording of the OP Frisky. 😛
However, people have been making a habit of stating that Quicksilver indicates time stoppage. It is not. It creates a Time Slowdown effect or "Lag".
Re: Re: Dante X Hsien-Ko
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
So yes, uicksilver, being a style, and not an item, is technically allowed due to your wording of the OP Frisky. 😛However, people have been making a habit of stating that Quicksilver indicates time stoppage. It is not. It creates a Time Slowdown effect or "Lag".
Oh Darn DSZ!! Always so masterfully observant. I need to go back and play DMC3, now.
Originally posted by chuck inglish
How is quicksilver not SE? is apart of him he asorbed it? so please tell me how its not SEon topic:
How fast is Hisen KO reflexes/reactions?
He does not start the game with it. It is not standard.
No way to gauge, as of yet. She's at least, slightly, beyond peak human. However, the incorporeal state is instant and so are her massive, area effecting, supers.
QS is as good as a timestop at least on non living entities like rocks.
I dont think this thread is much use, Dante is her bettter in every way anyway and his speed is at an extent she can do nothing, I agree that DS with hardly any real feats should not be used, if anything that goes for most if not all DSkers.
Originally posted by Frisky Dingo
He does not start the game with it. It is not standard.
Just because he doesn't start the game with QS doesn't mean it's not SE bro. The fact that QS is apart of him meaning he carry's it around with him means it's SE since its with him all the time. I can understand his other Devil arms might not be standard since Dante thinks that all he needs is E&I and rebellion
QS is standard, because he cant remove it from himself, just like any power one cannot remove from themselves like magic or knowledge. Devil arms are the only thing that are not common but I would say the devil arms he gets in his last canonic game are standard as well, so DMC 2 devil arms? or do we go by most recent game, iirc DMC 4 is set before DMC 2? not sure.
Geez, this section has really went down the crapper.
Feats are about 30-50% of the debate at any instant. Or at least it use to be. For example, DS like Bishamon are featless, and would STILL stomp Dante into dust, due specific powers and abilities. What the hell happened to the rest of the debate?! So now members just ignore everything that isn't a feat? Are KMCers now incapable of moving beyond the preliminary stages of a debate?
Also, Dante has QS in one game and he gains it more than halfway into the title. Ebony, Ivory, and Rebellion are equipment he starts off with, in nearly every installment. Just the same as Ryu Hayabusa with the Dragon Sword and shurikens. I don't care about your own twisted definitions on what "SE" means. I made the thread, so it is up to me decide. I suggest anyone with a problem,
Depends on the powers and abilities, if your bringing up something special like a specific magic power then maybe a specific feat is not necessery and more a gauge of resistances from those the spell is being used against but so far I have not seen you bring anything to the table other than the idea Hien can defeat groups of soldiers. What specific power or ability did you bring up that you think people are ignoring?
You can decide what is in or out of a thread sure, just dont imply that Dante would not canonically have it just because he got it in previous games, its all part of the same canon.
Originally posted by Burning thought
Depends on the powers and abilities, if your bringing up something special like a specific magic power then maybe a specific feat is not necessery and more a gauge of resistances from those the spell is being used against but so far I have not seen you bring anything to the table other than the idea Hien can defeat groups of soldiers. What specific power or ability did you bring up that you think people are ignoring?You can decide what is in or out of a thread sure, just dont imply that Dante would not canonically have it just because he got it in previous games, its all part of the same canon.
"Groups of soldiers"?! Is that some kind of joke?! "What specific power or ability did I bring up that I think people are ignoring"? The thread is only 2 pages long and you require me to repeat myself, yet again.
I no longer feel the need to subject myself to this nonsense. Since clearly, you've been ignoring me, I think I'm going to do the same.
Keep in mind, I'm only ignoring BT, if anyone else has any questions, feel free to ask.
So nothing then, didnt think so. Typical Darkstalker thread....
There are no specific powers or abilities in this thread of a special nature that have not been countered so this thread seems done if thats all youve got on the "Hsien-Ko" plate.
Edit- and according to your source, B+ is simply a citzen class with "special abilities", considering your source. So this class system is fairly ambigious and useless overall.
Originally posted by Frisky DingoI no longer feel the need to subject myself to this nonsense. Since clearly, you've been ignoring me, I think I'm going to do the same.
Keep in mind, I'm only ignoring BT, if anyone else has any questions, feel free to ask.
I told'ya. You lasted longer than I expected, but I told you you were eventually gonna start ignorin'im.
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But I changed my mind. I don't think it's a tie anymore. I think Dante will win with Devil Trigger (which I forgot he had, since I really didn't know what "DT" stood for) and I assume his Rebellion is[ awakened. Both bringin his spiritual powers to new heights. Given how the "DT" looks, seems to assume he can attack with spiritual power.
Even assuming she's safe being invis/tang, she has to appear to do her attacks to where Dante can close in on her given their speed difference. Cant comment on her attacks or 'Juggernaut phase', know nothing about that, so maybe there is something she can do.
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Chrono Heart, Quicksilver and the Bangle of Time would only been needed if the opponent or their attack is faster than Dante himself. No point in arguing for it in a thread is he's the faster character.
And everything listed in the OP is all thats needed (even though saying all styles means he'd get Doppelganger, QS and Yamato.. but I guess you only meant the 4 main ones). He has the strength, speed and techs as to win this.
The point I was tryin to get across earlier, is that she can't be killed by normal means, like melee attacks and gun shots. Since she can transform, back into a raw soul after takin damage and transform again. Her soul has to be drained in order for her to die, since she is just a soul. And when she enters her Hyper Armor State, her attacks wont be stopped once they've started. Unless it's a death blow, it will have no effect. This comes, when she removes her seal.
But like I said, given that the Rebellion is capable of awaking Dante's Devil Spirit, the blade clearly has spiritual properties. That with DT and his stats, should win this for'im after a good long while. Considerin what he has to deal with in order to get the W.
Originally posted by No End N Site
The point I was tryin to get across earlier, is that she can't be killed by normal means, like melee attacks and gun shots. Since she can transform, back into a raw soul after takin damage and transform again. Her soul has to be drained in order for her to die, since she is just a soul. And when she enters her Hyper Armor State, her attacks wont be stopped once they've started. Unless it's a death blow, it will have no effect. This comes, when she removes her seal.But like I said, given that the Rebellion is capable of awaking Dante's Devil [b]Spirit
, the blade clearly has spiritual properties. That with DT and his stats, should win this for'im after a good long while. Considerin what he has to deal with in order to get the W. [/B]
Well in the anime Dante did destroy a girl's demon soul with harming her http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0OQvArE8ks