Here's my question and thoughts on it:
Say character A has precog, and knows that character B is about to punch him. A then tenses in preparation, and prepares to counter.
Character B sees A's slight shift in movement, and decides to kick instead. The future is now changed.
A gets kicked in the crotch.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Here's my question and thoughts on it:Say character A has precog, and knows that character B is about to punch him. A then tenses in preparation, and prepares to counter.
Character B sees A's slight shift in movement, and decides to kick instead. The future is now changed.
A gets kicked in the crotch.
thats what i was thinking, ive never seen parkers powers work on the scale that he could predict a move to that degree
Originally posted by Sin I AM
thats what i was thinking, ive never seen parkers powers work on the scale that he could predict a move to that degree
Me neither. In fact, I've seen multiple occurrences of the reverse: the spidey-sense goes off, but he has no idea where the attack is going to come from, only that he is in danger.
So, my answer is: I'd take body reading anyday.
I'd read you baby. Like a COMIC BOOK!
His stingers are still around apparently. Even Kain has them somehow, they just didnt explain yet why he never uses them. The fight with Morlun, death, resurrection, all that is still canon.
Spider sense always warned him of danger and let it him know where its coming from. That's how he could always fight blindfolded. Its always been that way. But yes there are examples of it being less effective but those are bad showings. And im pretty sure the whole MA/spider sense working together thing isnt going anywhere while Slott is writing ASM.
Originally posted by Parmaniac
That's probably because you folks don't kkep up with him. In his fight with Kaine (spidered out) his SS returned and told him exactly what to do. Kaine was stated to be stronger and faster and it still worked.
It has low and high showings like anything else.
At it's best, it tells him the direction and intensity of an attack, but he usually has to guess at the type. Most of his rogues only beat him by using something new, that he wasn't expecting, and which would never work again...
Originally posted by cdtm"At it's best" he was able to track and follow a helicopter through the entire city just getting guided by his SS and he switches to Kung Fu autopilot.
It has low and high showings like anything else.At it's best, it tells him the direction and intensity of an attack, but he usually has to guess at the type.
EDIT: I could make an entire thread of how versatile the SS is like Thor's hammer.
Originally posted by cdtmPretty much. Id say that at its best it even "tells" him what kind of attack its gonna be. In one of the older issues he said he "sees" everything around him and proved it by guessing how many fringers MJ was holding behind his back.
It has low and high showings like anything else.At it's best, it tells him the direction and intensity of an attack, but he usually has to guess at the type. Most of his rogues only beat him by using something new, that he wasn't expecting, and which would never work again...
Originally posted by SamZED
Pretty much. Id say that at its best it even "tells" him what kind of attack its gonna be. In one of the older issues he said he "sees" everything around him and proved it by guessing how many fringers MJ was holding behind his back.
i remember that, but its a high feat thats hasnt been duplicated
Originally posted by Sin I AMNot duplicated exactly. But it has been suggested many times. Spider sense guides him, he "sees" where he should go in order to avoid objects even with his eyes closed, he doesnt need to look when he shoots a webline to attach it to a building in the right angle etc.
i remember that, but its a high feat thats hasnt been duplicated
Spider-Girl / Mayday has even stronger Spidey Sense than Peter, she can use it to tell where foe's weak areas are.
Originally posted by Prep-Man
So, Rose Willson vs Cassandra Cain? Who won that?
Cass.
Rose's precog was limited enough that Cassandra could figure out a way around, because she was able to 'read' that Rose was precoging and found a chink.
I'll note, another precog'r probably wouldn't have figured out that Rose was getting glimpses of the future.
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Really it does depend on one's level with it. Cassandra is like A+ on body reading and Rose's precog is a B-.
It's hard to know what "x" level body reading means in "y" level precog, but this thread seems like spider sense vs Batgirl's body reading.
Truthfully, we all have the ability to "read bodies" in real life. Fighters do it, interrogators do it, and normal people do it everyday. It's not at the level seen in comic book combat obviously, but I can't see much reason to pick it over actual precognition. Flirting with women is possible without super powers, guys.
Precognition requires very little effort to use, and is always on while giving more benefits in a combat scenario.
I meant to add:
Sin said she wanted a combat scenario, so precog is the easy choice for me. It requires less effort, is automatic, and offers more benefits in a fight. Multiple opponents, no lighting, and environmental dangers are all covered by precognition.
In a direct confrontation though, they'd neutralize each other mostly.
Originally posted by StyleTime
It's hard to know what "x" level body reading means in "y" level precog, but this thread seems like spider sense vs Batgirl's body reading.Truthfully, we all have the ability to "read bodies" in real life. Fighters do it, interrogators do it, and normal people do it everyday. It's not at the level seen in comic book combat obviously, but I can't see much reason to pick it over actual precognition. Flirting with women is possible without super powers, guys.
Precognition requires very little effort to use, and is always on while giving more benefits in a combat scenario.
well from what ive seen, precog only gives you "possible" outcomes as oppsed to body reading, which shows exactly what a person is doing...the only advantage id see coming from ss is that u dont have to actively see the threat to know its there
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Here's my question and thoughts on it:Say character A has precog, and knows that character B is about to punch him. A then tenses in preparation, and prepares to counter.
Character B sees A's slight shift in movement, and decides to kick instead. The future is now changed.
A gets kicked in the crotch.
Well you are getting into the reason why seeing the future is impossible in reality.
Since this is comics we must assume it is possible and paradoxes like this don't occur.
Spidey's pre-cog only operates after the intention. Once the intention happens (the switch to activate the attack) then Spidey manuevers. It some cases it is a split second before the movement. That way the enemy can't change. Lastly, if it were possible for the enemy to change then Spidey would still sense the new change and adjust accordingly.