Bench Press Contest

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
Juggernaut was able to dig his way out from a mountain that weighed trillions of tons. The only reason he didn't lift it was because it had crumbled around him and there was no solid mass to lift. But he was able to move and dig his way out.

That plus two different Hulk writers have said that Juggernaut can draw on infinite energy to gain more strength.

so0 basically juggernaut not being able to lift a mountain but instead he had to dig his way out for a very long time is suppose to prove something? as i remember it took him very long time to dig himself out and what does it prove? that he is strong enough to break pieces of mountain? and? even spider-man could have done that i dont see any point here , if he was that strong he would just lift the mountain or break it apart into pieces, where is it stated the mountain waited trillions of tons? if you are strong enough thereis always a mass to grab just the same way he was able to grab a building he could do it to a mountain right? unless he is not strong enough to do it and he had to dig himself out like a dog.

yeah yeah more writer statements blah blah, so i guess you dont have any feat to prove juggernaut can lift even a million tons? gothca 🙂

Originally posted by Gladiator379
where is it stated the mountain waited trillions of tons? if you are strong enough thereis always a mass to grab just the same way he was able to grab a building he could do it to a mountain right?

Well if you read the story you'll notice it is stated in that story.

After being pinned by that weight and then be able to stand up and start to dig your way out should attest to him being able to push up on that weight.

The building piece he grabbed onto was solid. So it held together and he was able to lift it. The mountain was probably like jello almost. Every time he tried to lift his arms just pushed through the rock. And when you think about it, that is far more realistic than supporting a mountain, that when it fell should have driven Hulk into the ground like a hammer and a nail.

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
Well if you read the story you'll notice it is stated in that story.

After being pinned by that weight and then be able to stand up and start to dig your way out should attest to him being able to push up on that weight.

The building piece he grabbed onto was solid. So it held together and he was able to lift it. The mountain was probably like jello almost. Every time he tried to lift his arms just pushed through the rock. And when you think about it, that is far more realistic than supporting a mountain, that when it fell should have driven Hulk into the ground like a hammer and a nail.

That ft doesn't.compare to Hulk having a mountain fall on him and him using his entire body to lift up 150 billion tons.

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
Well if you read the story you'll notice it is stated in that story.

After being pinned by that weight and then be able to stand up and start to dig your way out should attest to him being able to push up on that weight.

The building piece he grabbed onto was solid. So it held together and he was able to lift it. The mountain was probably like jello almost. Every time he tried to lift his arms just pushed through the rock. And when you think about it, that is far more realistic than supporting a mountain, that when it fell should have driven Hulk into the ground like a hammer and a nail.

dude you make no sense at all, hulk had a mountain dropped on him and he was able to lift the mountain because he was strong enough, the fact juggernaut couldnt already means he is no match for the mountain weight, the fact juggernaut was alive only proves he is imune to the physical harm the mountain did thats it, juggernaut survivng that mountain is only a feat of his durability, is juggernaut was a real powerhouse like hulk he would be able to lift that mountain or at least break it apart and get out but that wasnt the case, cain was alive but he was no match for the mountain so he had to dig his way out like a dog for a very very long time as was stated so dont try to twist anything.

the mountain was like a jello? dude are you listening to yourself? superman was able to lift a mountain why didnt it break? superman was able to lift a pyramid why didntit break? hulk was able to lift a mountain why didnt it break? juggernaut was able to lift a building why didnt it break? but suddenly a mountain that owned juggernaut was suppose to break? and even if it broke whats the problem? if he is strong enough he should be able to get out of that in no scratch right? but the fact is juggernaut couldnt even handle the broken pieces of the mountain right? hell juggernaut couldnt even punch his way out of that mountain i mean if he was strong enough even as far as striking power he should be able to bust his way out in no time, but he couldnt do EVEN THAT so the only thing he could do was dig 😄

as i said before he couldnt lift the mountain, he couldnt break the mountain, he couldnt punch his way out of the mountain, thats something anyone on THOR/SUPERMAN level could easily do and even gladiator but juggernaut was helpless, in a situation like this even spider-man could use enough force to dig his way out of that mountain , all that proves that juggernaut never was a REAL powerhouse, he was able to compete with the top dogs due to his durability but as far as strength and power overall? well he is no match for the top dogs sorry

Originally posted by carver9
That ft doesn't.compare to Hulk having a mountain fall on him and him using his entire body to lift up 150 billion tons.

You mean supported? Plus are you even sure that he held up 150 billion? Covers seem to show and say alot, like Doom wielding Mjolnir on a FF cover. I can't remember if it said that weight in the comic itself or just on the cover?

Most of that mountain was on the ground. I guess the part he was supporting weighed 150.

This is what I'm talking about.....

The powersets get SO FAR advanced from so many ridiculous claims that the heroes should ALL be playing baseball with comets.

Which makes them utterly useless on a Earth-scale. What's to stop a "raging" Hulk from hitting the ground and the supposed shock destroying the earth?

How does the recoil from such "thunderclaps" not rip everything off the face of the planet?

I'm just saying, what happened to class 100? To Superman lifting Manhattan being a HUGE feat?

It's ridiculous. There's nowhere to go from here.........why not just say a fart from the Hulk destroys the Solar system.

BORING.

Originally posted by Gladiator379
the mountain was like a jello? dude are you listening to yourself? superman was able to lift a mountain why didnt it break? superman was able to lift a pyramid why didntit break? hulk was able to lift a mountain why didnt it break? juggernaut was able to lift a building why didnt it break?

Seriously? Mountains, glaciers and other large formations break apart under there own weight all the time. You're asking why it didn't break for Superman and Hulk, really? Different writers will produce different results, and IT'S A COMIC! You don't seriously think a mountain would hold together while being lifted by something with the surface area of Superman/Hulk's hands do you?

The mountain broke apart on Juggernaut because it was being shelled by artillery. Not to mention the time it took him to get out has been retconned in New Excalibur.

I'll give you another example. I could probably easily lift a very big bag full of packing peanuts above my head no problem. But without that bag they would just fall down around me. Lets say the pile was completely covering me, i could try to lift it but my hand would just push through it. I'd have to dig or push my way out. Now substitute rocks for the packing peanuts.

Originally posted by ColossusGrundy
This is what I'm talking about.....

The powersets get SO FAR advanced from so many ridiculous claims that the heroes should ALL be playing baseball with comets.

Which makes them utterly useless on a Earth-scale. What's to stop a "raging" Hulk from hitting the ground and the supposed shock destroying the earth?

How does the recoil from such "thunderclaps" not rip everything off the face of the planet?

I'm just saying, what happened to class 100? To Superman lifting Manhattan being a HUGE feat?

It's ridiculous. There's nowhere to go from here.........why not just say a fart from the Hulk destroys the Solar system.

BORING.

yeah i miss the times when lifting a sub marine was a feat of its own, in today standards judging by top feats and statements if thor will lift a sub marine and make an "argh" noise thats already a very low feat, how dare he make a sound he should lift it like 2 lbs

Originally posted by ColossusGrundy
This is what I'm talking about.....

The powersets get SO FAR advanced from so many ridiculous claims that the heroes should ALL be playing baseball with comets.

Which makes them utterly useless on a Earth-scale. What's to stop a "raging" Hulk from hitting the ground and the supposed shock destroying the earth?

How does the recoil from such "thunderclaps" not rip everything off the face of the planet?

I'm just saying, what happened to class 100? To Superman lifting Manhattan being a HUGE feat?

It's ridiculous. There's nowhere to go from here.........why not just say a fart from the Hulk destroys the Solar system.

BORING.

Also a sneeze from superman destroyed solar systems FYI

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
Seriously? Mountains, glaciers and other large formations break apart under there own weight all the time. You're asking why it didn't break for Superman and Hulk, really? Different writers will produce different results, and IT'S A COMIC! You don't seriously think a mountain would hold together while being lifted by something with the surface area of Superman/Hulk's hands do you?

The mountain broke apart on Juggernaut because it was being shelled by artillery. Not to mention the time it took him to get out has been retconned in New Excalibur.

I'll give you another example. I could probably easily lift a very big bag full of packing peanuts above my head no problem. But with out that bag they would just fall down around me. Now substitute rocks for the packing peanuts.

dude seriously... how does it change the fact he couldnt overpower his way out of that mountain and instead he needed very long time to dig himself out of there? if juggernaut could lift the mountain he would... and then the mountain would break apart or not doesnt matter, the fact is he wasnt able to do it.. what would happen later is already invalid.

why didnt he just overpower his way out of there? i give you an example if you drop a hell lot of paper on me i should just overpower my way out of there right? i mean you are trying to argue with me that the mountain overall weight was nothing to juggernaut right? so juggernaut could easily overpower his way out of there , so why didnt he? because he couldnt as simple as that , why didnt he punch his way out of there? because he couldnt.. he had to dig his way out and this proves that he is more on colossus level strength than actually thor or superman

i mean seriously look at gladiator being able to bust a planet, look at hulk lifting a mountain, superman destroying planets, tell me what do you think would happen if a mountain fell on them? 1 - 2 shots and they bust the crap out of that mountain, juggernaut couldnt do it he had to dig

Originally posted by Gladiator379
dude seriously... how does it change the fact he couldnt overpower his way out of that mountain and instead he needed very long time to dig himself out of there? if juggernaut could lift the mountain he would... and then the mountain would break apart or not doesnt matter, the fact is he wasnt able to do it.. what would happen later is already invalid.

why didnt he just overpower his way out of there? i give you an example if you drop a hell lot of paper on me i should just overpower my way out of there right? i mean you are trying to argue with me that the mountain overall weight was nothing to juggernaut right? so juggernaut could easily overpower his way out of there , so why didnt he? because he couldnt as simple as that , why didnt he punch his way out of there? because he couldnt.. he had to dig his way out and this proves that he is more on colossus level strength than actually thor or superman

Wow reading comprehension FTW! The mountain was crumbling around him as he got the power, not after when he was trying to get out. And Juggernaut did get out on his own power, and the time it took him too has been changed in New Excalibur.

Originally posted by Gladiator379
i mean seriously look at gladiator being able to bust a planet, look at hulk lifting a mountain, superman destroying planets, tell me what do you think would happen if a mountain fell on them? 1 - 2 shots and they bust the crap out of that mountain, juggernaut couldnt do it he had to dig

Yeah thats comic physics for you. Juggernaut could swing away, but it be like me trying to punch while submerged in the packing peanuts, my arm would just temporarily displace the peanuts.

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
Wow reading comprehension FTW! The mountain was crumbling around him as he got the power, not after when he was trying to get out. And Juggernaut did get out on his own power, and the time it took him too has been changed in New Excalibur.

again how does it change the fact he was overpowered by the mountain and couldnt just bust out of there but had to dig instead? was the new excalibur change canon? please present that scan lets see the mentioning about the time

if there is something i always hated is when someone is wrong but he is trying to grasp on straws, stop making a fool out of yourself because even a baboon would realise my point already, juggernaut got over powered by the mountain he couldnt just break free or bust the mountain, lets say he is lying on his back traped inside the mountain right? if he is strong enough he can just push away everything that stand in his way but he couldnt he had to dig so that shows us MOUNTAIN > JUGGERNAUT caprende?

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
Yeah thats comic physics for you. Juggernaut could swing away, but it be like me trying to punch while submerged in the packing peanuts, my arm would just temporarily displace the peanuts.

why shouldnt he be able to bust a rock with his punches? or just push the entire mountain mass away off him? because he couldnt stop making a fool out of yourself, there is a clear showing that shows us jugegrnaut COULD NOT handle a mountain he couldnt bust or overpower his way out he had to dig stop trolling and go eat some peanuts as i see thats the only thing you good at

Originally posted by Gladiator379
why shouldnt he be able to bust a rock with his punches? or just push the entire mountain mass away off him? because he couldnt stop making a fool out of yourself, there is a clear showing that shows us jugegrnaut COULD NOT handle a mountain he couldnt bust or overpower his way out he had to dig stop trolling and go eat some peanuts as i see thats the only thing you good at

LMAO! How old are you? Damn man, do you only read part of my posts? Juggs did get out, UNDER HIS OWN POWER. He probably was trying to break the rock only to bust them into smaller pieces. AND AGAIN, New Excalibur shows him getting out faster than previously shown. After he got the power he had to kill the previous Juggernaut. While I think Juggs is strong, I realize that he is slower than Hulk and Gladiator. Their striking power can be higher due to there greater speed.

Typically you can't push the entire mass of something that is in tiny pieces. Especially when you have no traction and have to deal with weight and pressure of something far larger than you are.

Do you even know what packing peanuts are? Usually when I see a post like yours I get the idea that you're getting frustrated and are typing to fast for your own good. Not to mention you're resulting to pathetic and lame insults.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
You know superman was one of the first characters to have such feats, why do you hate hulk and not superman?

Also a sneeze from superman destroyed solar systems FYI

Not hating Hulk, he just gets more of the fanboy following on this forum.

The Supes stuff doesn't seem as out of control.

Used to be everyone said Wolverine could regenerate from ANYTHING, just as bad.

Hulk is the current flavor I suppose.

Originally posted by ColossusGrundy

It's ridiculous. There's nowhere to go from here.........why not just say a fart from the Hulk destroys the Solar system.

One can of beans gives Lobo a 50 kiloton Nuke fart. Imagine if he ate an entire stockpile of beans from Walmart.

Originally posted by ColossusGrundy
Not hating Hulk, he just gets more of the fanboy following on this forum.

The Supes stuff doesn't seem as out of control.

Used to be everyone said Wolverine could regenerate from ANYTHING, just as bad.

Hulk is the current flavor I suppose.

Originally posted by TheHulk
what!!! do you even reliase how many few hulk supporters here!!!

Do you realize that EVERY Hulk involved post has some ridiculous feat listed with a "hulk will get stronger" comment added?

It's silly.

There's a lot of heroes (and some villains) that should thrash Hulk soundly, but the response is always something ridiculous.