Originally posted by Damborgson
Carver Hulk can say what he wants. That does not make it true. If we go by something like that where a character says he can beat another just on his word, then Spiderman's statement is more than plausible. Why not? Spiderman knows his power. Thor once said he can throw his hammer faster than thought witht he power of a thousand suns. Why is this not a crazy feat for Thor? He knows his own power. Thor also said he can't beat hulk. AND HE NEVER COULD. He knows his own power and history amirite?And Good Lord at the example. Those two do not apply to one another. Hulk saying he is the equal of someone and Thor demonstrating he was amped by the OF are two different deals entirely.
Nul never shown anything to suggest he was physically more powerful than WWH. If you can't accept Hulk saying that him and Nul are the same, how would you know? What can lead you to believe its true if you can't accept the character/writer stating it as fact?
That's like people claiming Wolverine was amped as the Horseman called Death when overall, Wolverine didn't receive not one physical amp during this incarnation.
Nul showed nothing that puts him above Hulk and Hulk...the person who felt what it was like to be Nul should know this. I don't care about your Spiderman comment or whatever else you brought up...your argument fails.
Originally posted by quanchi112lol you should do the same.......
Spiderman beat Hulk. They are all the same guy. It's funny how certain Hulks are the same while others mysteriously become other characters.Hulk can't just make war hammers hence the amp. Carver you never make a lick of sense. Please don't change.
Originally posted by carver9Hint...war hammer. Hulk isn't capable of what he is capable of with a war hammer.
Nul never shown anything to suggest he was physically more powerful than WWH. If you can't accept Hulk saying that him and Nul are the same, how would you know? What can lead you to believe its true if you can't accept the character/writer stating it as fact?That's like people claiming Wolverine was amped as the Horseman called Death when overall, Wolverine didn't receive not one physical amp during this incarnation.
Nul showed nothing that puts him above Hulk and Hulk...the person who felt what it was like to be Nul should know this. I don't care about your Spiderman comment or whatever else you brought up...your argument fails.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Spiderman beat Hulk. They are all the same guy. It's funny how certain Hulks are the same while others mysteriously become other characters.Hulk can't just make war hammers hence the amp. Carver you never make a lick of sense. Please don't change.
I make perfect sense. Some Hulks are more powerful than others...there is no way of debating this. So can you post that fight of Spiderman defeating banner Hulk.
I admit, the hammer aided in versatility. That's about it.
Originally posted by carver9Yes, I know. Hulk's powerset doesn't excuse him for his losses though.
I make perfect sense. Some Hulks are more powerful than others...there is no way of debating this. So can you post that fight of Spiderman defeating banner Hulk.I admit, the hammer aided in versatility. That's about it.
No, I'd rather you sit and stew over it. I don't want you seeing it. I'd rather keep you in the dark as punishment for daring to mention the Hulk in the same sentence as mighty Thanos.
So you admit it amped him. It's about time.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Hint...war hammer. Hulk isn't capable of what he is capable of with a war hammer.
I understand that but there is no possible way of PHYSICALLY amping a being that has no cap strength wise. Do you not understand this? What did the hammer aid in doing to Hulk physically? Did it aid in making him madder? Doesn't make sense. WWH had complete control of his amping abilities anyway so Nul can't be physically stronger than someone who doesn't have a cap on "controlled strength".
Like I said before...I admit that the hammer aided in Hulks versatility but Thats about it.
Originally posted by carver9It alters his character. I don't see why it can't amp his strength either. It makes each character more formidable so the showing doesn't count. The Hulk is still the strongest elite top tier out there imo just don't bring him up against Thanos.
I understand that but there is no possible way of PHYSICALLY amping a being that has no cap strength wise. Do you not understand this? What did the hammer aid in doing to Hulk physically? Did it aid in making him madder? Doesn't make sense. WWH had complete control of his amping abilities anyway so Nul can't be physically stronger than someone who doesn't have a cap on "controlled strength".Like I said before...I admit that the hammer aided in Hulks versatility but Thats about it.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, I know. Hulk's powerset doesn't excuse him for his losses though.No, I'd rather you sit and stew over it. I don't want you seeing it. I'd rather keep you in the dark as punishment for daring to mention the Hulk in the same sentence as mighty Thanos.
So you admit it amped him. It's about time.
Hulk>>>>Thanos. There isn't any shame on Hulk being above Thanos.
Originally posted by quanchi112
It alters his character. I don't see why it can't amp his strength either. It makes each character more formidable so the showing doesn't count. The Hulk is still the strongest elite top tier out there imo just don't bring him up against Thanos.
Lol...you can't amp."controlled strength". WWH has complete control of his amping abilities (which was shown numerous of times). There isn't a possible way for Nul to be stronger than someone that can go from 0 to 100+ trillion tons of force in some seconds. There isn't a way force Nul to be stronger than someone that can go from 0 to World Breaker mode in seconds.
Hulk has complete control of his strength.
Originally posted by carver9Common sense? If you take WWH then you add to him Thor's hammer, protective spells, a strength increase, and no concern for damage or human life then i think its safe to assume he's the better of the two.
Nul never shown anything to suggest he was physically more powerful than WWH. If you can't accept Hulk saying that him and Nul are the same, how would you know? What can lead you to believe its true if you can't accept the character/writer stating it as fact?That's like people claiming Wolverine was amped as the Horseman called Death when overall, Wolverine didn't receive not one physical amp during this incarnation.
Nul showed nothing that puts him above Hulk and Hulk...the person who felt what it was like to be Nul should know this. I don't care about your Spiderman comment or whatever else you brought up...your argument fails.
Was there anything stating/showing otherwise? If Not then fine wolverine didn't get an amp. Hulk did though.
What did he need to show to put him above Hulk in you're eyes? WWH was an event centered around the hulk. Written by Pak of all people. Benids did his usual sh*t and jobbed Nul. No one takes that seriously or holds it against him. he broke admantium, uru, and almost beat Thor (who is above anyone hulk fought in WWH. Yes even Zom and Sentry.)
If you "don't care" its because you have nothing to counter it. If you cant beat a "fail" argument then that does not reflect well on you.
Originally posted by carver9Yes, there is. Sorry but WW Hulk himself exerted all his power against the Sentry.
Lol...you can't amp."controlled strength". WWH has complete control of his amping abilities (which was shown numerous of times). There isn't a possible way for Nul to be stronger than someone that can go from 0 to 100+ trillion tons of force in some seconds. There isn't a way force Nul to be stronger than someone that can go from 0 to World Breaker mode in seconds.Hulk has complete control of his strength.
I never said Nul was stronger than WB Hulk I said Nul's feats don't apply to Hulk. They don't.
At certain times yes and at certain times no.
Originally posted by carver9I graciously accept the concession.
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I don't understand why some people automatically assume that's a sign of inferiority. Thor admitted he can't beat Hulk -brawling straight up like that- (Some think it was goading but I don't give a shit personally ), but that doesn't mean Hulk's victory is in anyway a sure thing. Fraction was making a play on their inconclusive rivalry based on the interview.
Don't forget people, Thor said this while taking on an amped Hulk and Thing (Increased to Elite status). And he won that fight. After going through some various ordeals.
Originally posted by Damborgson
Common sense? If you take WWH then you add to him Thor's hammer, protective spells, a strength increase, and no concern for damage or human life then i think its safe to assume he's the better of the two.Was there anything stating/showing otherwise? If Not then fine wolverine didn't get an amp. Hulk did though.
What did he need to show to put him above Hulk in you're eyes? WWH was an event centered around the hulk. Written by Pak of all people. Benids did his usual sh*t and jobbed Nul. No one takes that seriously or holds it against him. he broke admantium, uru, and almost beat Thor (who is above anyone hulk fought in WWH. Yes even Zom and Sentry.)
If you "don't care" its because you have nothing to counter it. If you cant beat a "fail" argument then that does not reflect well on you.
I have proof...plenty of it. Example...Banner...human Banner...he's running...excited and pissed at the same time. The guy went from his Human form.m World Breaker mode INSTANTLY.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/8094156/Incredible_Hulks_632_012.jpg.html
He has complete control of his power. Complete control. There is no way in hell he Nul could be stronger than someone that can amp to insane levels at the blink of an eye. There was nothing stated on panel that Nul was STRONGER than WWH. More powerful due to versatility...sure...stronger...not one shed of proof and its impossible anyways since WWH basically have "complete control of his strength".
Would you like another instance of WWH going from Zero to super Saiyan modes in a split second?
