The Most Badass Female Game Character

Originally posted by dadudemon
Additionally, the entire premise of Mass Effect requires you to not think logically. With trillions of sapient organisms in the galaxy, it would be quite easy for a small remote scientific group to develop and highly advanced AI that would make the Geth look pathetic. We, as humans, are supposed to do this in a 2 to 3 decades (unless we have some "Alliance-like" policies.). The Geth are actually quite...lame compared to what true AI would do. It is possible that with their sentience, they chose stagnation. So I could be wrong. We don't truly know how a real AI would work AFTER it surpasses our ability to understand it.

You think we can surpass the Geth in a few decades? Lol, dream on!

The Reapers have can make space stations and fit them comfortably in the middle of the galaxy, safe from the supermassive black holes in the center.

I'm going to go off on a limb here and say that humanity is not accomplishing anything rivaling that in 100 years.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Apparently there are individuals, companies, organizations, etc. secretly working on AI. EDI and Overlord are a few examples. Also that credit-stealing AI on the Citadel in Mass Effect 1. I suppose AIs in the Mass Effect universe are portrayed to be more dangerous and unpredictable rather than godlike.

Yeah, we're going to see some seriously awesome shit in our lifetimes. Hopefully.

Yes, I was aware of that. I am talking about the development of strong AI that is allowed to develop, unmolested, for a few years. With the futuristic computers in Mass effect, leaving AI as strong as a human, in intelligence, alone for just a few months (with processing power as capable as the future galaxy in Mass Effect) would result in an overwhelming jump in sentience. The problem with AI is one of exponential growth and why it is a genuine threat. They did this with the Geth but did not really DO it very well. Why are the geth a threat when a dude with some weak personal shielding, some futuristic ballistic pistols, and a weak exosuit able to take down dozens of Geth on his/her own? The idea of "hive mind" is a very poor explanation. And they developed in the cold of space on their own for years.

Originally posted by Nephthys
You think we can surpass the Geth in a few decades? Lol, dream on!

crylaugh

It's even funnier because you might be serious.

Next you're going to tell me that we can't reach the moon. 😆

Originally posted by NemeBro
The Reapers have can make space stations and fit them comfortably in the middle of the galaxy, safe from the supermassive black holes in the center.

I'm going to go off on a limb here and say that humanity is not accomplishing anything rivaling that in 100 years.

Exponential growth disagrees with you. Additionally, some things in Mass Effect are "pretend" and things that will never happen (most like). FTL travel is one of them.

I can't really say who's the most badass chick so here's just a handful to add to the fray I suppose lol

Lady -DMC

Ultimecia - FF8

Juri Han - SF4

Lulu - FFX

Mai Shiranui - Fatal Fury/KOF

Originally posted by Ban Mido
I can't really say who's the most badass chick so here's just a handful to add to the fray I suppose lol

Lady -DMC

Yes.

Just recently, I took a liking to her. Mostly because she seems almost normal but is still badass...if that makes sense.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Exponential growth disagrees with you. Additionally, some things in Mass Effect are "pretend" and things that will never happen (most like). FTL travel is one of them.

Good to know. 🙂

Originally posted by NemeBro
So what you are saying is that we will never be as advanced as the Reapers?

Good to know. 🙂

In one or two ways, yes. The rest? Nah. Reapers aren't some magical creatures and I do not view them as some sort of threat to humans in 50-100 years...even if we are not longer human.

Kind of a weird opinion to hold considering we haven't actually seen the full capabilities of the Reapers. estahuh

Hey I'm just saying.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Kind of a weird opinion to hold considering we haven't actually seen the full capabilities of the Reapers. estahuh

Hey I'm just saying.

What, do they have super zappy guns? 😆

Edit - Their massive immolation rounds are devastating to "capital class" ships, for sure. However...how is that different from an upscaled version of a rail-gun (it's not). Then the indoctrination field that they emit...not really all that new. If you can master organic life (knowing exactly what to do with DNA, learn how to interface with neurons and create "learning"😉, then how is that showing magical technology? We are trying to do the "brain waves" learning thing, now. Rail guns? We already have them. We just need much more powerful energy supplies to replicate their uber-guns.

Originally posted by dadudemon
crylaugh

It's even funnier because you might be serious.

Next you're going to tell me that we can't reach the moon. 😆

You're an idiot. 🙂

Originally posted by Nephthys
You're an idiot. 🙂

You should probably understand exponential growth before you throw words around like "idiot". Just sayin'. 😉

How about back to the thread? 🙂

Maybe you should thiink about what you're saying before you run your mouth. 😄

Exponential growth isn't a guarantee of anything. It's a prediction.

Originally posted by dadudemon
What, do they have super zappy guns? 😆

Edit - Their massive immolation rounds are devastating to "capital class" ships, for sure. However...how is that different from an upscaled version of a rail-gun (it's not). Then the indoctrination field that they emit...not really all that new. If you can master organic life (knowing exactly what to do with DNA, learn how to interface with neurons and create "learning"😉, then how is that showing magical technology? We are trying to do the "brain waves" learning thing, now. Rail guns? We already have them. We just need much more powerful energy supplies to replicate their uber-guns.

Well they aren't railguns. They're not railguns at all. Reaper tech, I mean. Sovereign fired not a laser, but a stream of molten metals from each tentacle.

And they can indoctrinate and warp space by existing, even while dead.

We have just barely tapped into what can't even be called the poor-man's version of Reaper technology.

Not even counting the fact that Mass Effect technology does run on a little something called Element Zero, that allows the setting to achieve shit like interstellar flight (AND SUPAR PSYCHIC POWAHS). Which makes it effectively magic. 😬 And that is only what the Reapers allow the galaxy to use.

Edit: All of the things that the ME setting has that you dismiss as "pretend" are only possible through throw-away Reaper technology in-setting.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Well they aren't railguns. They're not railguns at all. Reaper tech, I mean. Sovereign fired not a laser, but a stream of molten metals from each tentacle.

And that can be done with a "super duper" rail gun. We have already considered and tried the molten round approach. Some are still interested in it (I believe some are trying molten aluminum rounds)

Additionally, it is quite a shitty way to deliver a ballistic. A heavy, durable, solid round has much more penetration and destruction power per unit mass.

Originally posted by NemeBro
And they can indoctrinate and warp space by existing, even while dead.

Just because their central computer (their consciousness) is down, doesn't mean other systems such as the passive indoctrination emitters, are also down. That could be quickly built in as a "parallel" system in the case of the central computer failure. Redundant, independent, but controllable computers. We already do that as humans. Hardly a ground breaking and intelligent concept.

Originally posted by NemeBro
We have just barely tapped into what can't even be called the poor-man's version of Reaper technology.

I agree. There's nothing wrong with that, however. 50 years ago, if you told a computer scientist that we would be mass-manufacturing 25nm process transistors, they would say, "wait, you figured out how to miniaturize transistors to the nanoscale...and you figured out how to pack them that close together while minimizing electronic leakage? WTF? That's impossible!" True story, bro.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Not even counting the fact that Mass Effect technology does run on a little something called Element Zero, that allows the setting to achieve shit like interstellar flight (AND SUPAR PSYCHIC POWAHS). Which makes it effectively magic. 😬 And that is only what the Reapers allow the galaxy to use.

And nanobots, wirelessly linked, will produce even better "psychic powahs". Not only that, they will immortalize us, repair injuries very quickly (like medi-gel), enhance our intelligence and knowledge to unimaginable levels (think Reaper...but smarter), and allow for instantaneous learning. 🙂

Too bad, element zero, you had your run. 😄

Originally posted by NemeBro
Edit: All of the things that the ME setting has that you dismiss as "pretend" are only possible through throw-away Reaper technology in-setting.

FTL travel is definitely not "throw-away" technology. Throw-away technology are things like disposable digital cameras or outdated omni-tools. The Reapers entire plan is for the sapient species to achieve FTL travel and use the Reaper gateways (leading them back to the Citadel). That's the foundation of the Reaper's entire plan. Hardly throw-away. 🙂

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Exponential growth isn't a guarantee of anything. It's a prediction.

While that's true, it's hardly worth entertaining a growth model that predicts it will all come to a halt. Based on the technologies in R&D, right now, there is no end in sight for our current exponential growth. In the next decade to 15 years, it is very predictable. Leave that type of stuff up to scientists and Gartner Group. If they say the miniturization of ICs will peak around 2016-2018, cool. That's the end of ICs...but then there's other technologies, not just ICs.

For instance, memristors are slated to replace RAM, CPUs, and information storage. HP has a commercial release (meaning...not for the general public) scheduled for 2014. It is showing that it will make a giant leap in processing power which is supposed to kind of throw off the whole "Moore's Law" idea.

Krauss did an analysis and says the ultimate limit is about 600 years off: hardly in the near future.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Maybe you should thiink about what you're saying before you run your mouth. 😄

Maybe you should think about what you're typing before you hit submit: your ignorance is showing.

dadudemon knows what's up.

I wonder whether we'll make super-advanced AI's before or after we're all driving flying cars.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I wonder whether we'll make super-advanced AI's before or after we're all driving flying cars.

Probably before. Handing over control of a flying car to your average driver would be immensely disastrous.
EDIT: Well, maybe not before super-advanced, but sufficiently advanced.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I wonder whether we'll make super-advanced AI's before or after we're all driving flying cars.

Flying cars have been around for decades. I think you mean the AI that would allow for flying cars to be viable for the masses.

I think you mean the AI technology that already exists that can completely fly our airplanes from take off to landing? You mean that technology????? 🙂

Yes, it has existed since the 90s. Did you know that we have several systems (including survaillance technologies already in use) that completely fly themselves from takeoff to landing? Of course you didn't. You probably are not even aware of the various technologies used in FMS.

Did you also know that we have had the technology both in AI and processing power, to transform the entire US automobile infrastructure into "auto-drive" systems? Did you know that Google is giving that another go and is going to attempt a one million mile "non-human intervention" driving challenge?

Finally, did you know that the reason we don't have flying cars has nothing to do with technology? If you wanted to know: it's a social problem.

But, you'll probably just reply with another snarky comeback that amounts to more veiled whining.

Originally posted by dadudemon
And that can be done with a "super duper" rail gun. We have already considered and tried the molten round approach. Some are still interested in it (I believe some are trying molten aluminum rounds)

Additionally, it is quite a shitty way to deliver a ballistic. A heavy, durable, solid round has much more penetration and destruction power per unit mass.

Apparently not, considering Mass Effect space combat makes use of super duper railguns, which can just barely do shit to the hull of a Reaper, the weaponry of a Reaper being able to tear through capital ships like butter.

Just because their central computer (their consciousness) is down, doesn't mean other systems such as the passive indoctrination emitters, are also down. That could be quickly built in as a "parallel" system in the case of the central computer failure. Redundant, independent, but controllable computers. We already do that as humans. Hardly a ground breaking and intelligent concept.

On a much smaller scale. Compared to Reapers, who can exert control over organisms (Collectors) over galactic+ distances.

I agree. There's nothing wrong with that, however. 50 years ago, if you told a computer scientist that we would be mass-manufacturing 25nm process transistors, they would say, "wait, you figured out how to miniaturize transistors to the nanoscale...and you figured out how to pack them that close together while minimizing electronic leakage? WTF? That's impossible!" True story, bro.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not denying the exponential growth of science and being a clownshoe like Neph, I merely am expressing skepticism that we will reach Reaper technology in as little as 50-100 years. The Geth? Sure I could see us surpassing them in relatively short time, they're not that advanced, in comparison.

And nanobots, wirelessly linked, will produce even better "psychic powahs". Not only that, they will immortalize us, repair injuries very quickly (like medi-gel), enhance our intelligence and knowledge to unimaginable levels (think Reaper...but smarter), and allow for instantaneous learning. 🙂

I'd like to see you provide evidence for this. Mostly because it is awesome, but also because I'm not quite seeing the part where we will be on par with a race that is essentially a legion of two kilometer warships that can override the will of any organism in the galaxy, one formed of technology (And organic material) that allows them to wipe out fleets of ships alone. That's not Reaper technology, that's what a Reaper is.

Not even counting that their teleportation technology apparently has enough energy stored inside to wipe out a solar system, not even counting actual weapons.

Or the whole making a little base in the middle of a supermassive black hole.

Or their ability to take a galaxy-wide civilization, indoctrinate it, then essentially remake them on the genetic level (And adding some new bitz too) until they were a different species, with a single Reaper holding control over the entire species.

I'm sorry, but you will have to forgive my skepticism over us reaching that kind of level in as short as a hundred years. Sure, the Reapers are not the most sufficiently advanced aliens there are, but stfu and make me a sammich.

Too bad, element zero, you had your run. 😄

Good thing that Element Zero is nothing compared to the glimpses of Reaper tech that we have seen.

Though really, it's not like Element Zero is bullshit tech or anything. It can reduce the mass of a massive starship so that it can travel at FTL speeds. Which is pretty cool.

FTL travel is definitely not "throw-away" technology. Throw-away technology are things like disposable digital cameras or outdated omni-tools. The Reapers entire plan is for the sapient species to achieve FTL travel and use the Reaper gateways (leading them back to the Citadel). That's the foundation of the Reaper's entire plan. Hardly throw-away. 🙂

While also traveling along the technological and evolutionary paths they impose upon the galaxy, so that they can't be a real threat to