Originally posted by abhilegend
He was standing on a moving ship and blocking energy attacks of someone who was moving at nearly the same speed. Then surfer reached the ship and bill attacked him. I don't see how that's a speed feat for bill.
They exchanged blows and Surfer was maneuvering at that speed but Bill could still react to him and block his shots
Originally posted by quanchi112
Superman also struggles against magic. When has he went down due to being unable to react to a speedblitz ? Give some examples since you claimed he cannot react to one.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Not like thor who has been called upon his speed far often than. A quick sampleYou want to tell me when daredevil dances around thor, its because of plot?
Originally posted by biensalsaSuperman increases his speed accordingly? Of course I know that. In fact, I can read it in plain black-and-white right here when he's facing Shadowdragon:
I guess since you know so much about Superman that He increases his speed accordingly right?
Let's face it, Superman got speedblitzed and he had to fight him in another way since he was outclassed in speed:
Superman got straight up outsped by a street-leveler.
Originally posted by biensalsaLady Shiva sonned Shadowdragon. Badly. Dude's a street. And dealing with DC lasers doesn't change that. It's a low feat by Superman, lower than getting speedblitzed by a clear high meta like Mongoose while poisoned.
And I guess since You always argue on his favor know that an enemy like Shadow Dragon also increases his speed and powers according to his needs. So getting punked by Shiva is just that. Which Shiva recognizes and procedes to get rid of the armor before he enters in high gear.And is not only the Mongoose scan there are others, let me look for them and I post them, you want me to?
And don't put words on my mouth, I did not said He can't deal with speedSters (Well not that IR ) I said He has trouble dealing with that type of attack that deals a ton of hits in a single attack.
And believe me getting wrecked by a street level happens a lot haven't you seen Spiderman respect thread? So shiva dealing with the armor before He gets into high gear is bad because???
But somehow you felt compelled to pretend it's not a low feat. That you can keep holding Thor's low feats against him but not Superman's. Phuck off. The ease with which you offer your excuses for Superman but condemn everything offered for Thor is nothing but straight up hypocritical garbage. You scoff at Thor effortlesly dealing with lasers and thought speed attacks without resorting to aim dodging/blocking. You jizz at DC characters dealing with lasers and thought speeds where aim dodging/blocking exists.
This hypocrisy is made even worse when you stack the Shadowdragon low feat against the Mongoose low feat. Mongoose never was destroyed by Elektra. Shadowdragon didn't use poison to slow Superman down. Yet, with your short-circuited brain, somehow you concluded that Thor somehow can't deal with speed. Backwards. As in ass backwards.
Which two panels?
Because it looks like in the first panel - the one where he's depicted quite small - he's holding Stormbreaker with a single hand, though because of the size, it could be argued.
In the second one, Bill is holding his hammer with two hands across the handle.
And in the third panel we see him, he has Stormbreaker in his right hand only.
So I'm really not seeing where he's holding it the exact same...?
Originally posted by abhilegendI'm saying magic and speed put both characters at a disadvantage but not one for an automatic loss. Thor overcomes speed and quite often. Superman has overcome certain mages and needed aid against other ones. I mean I can show Superman getting tagged with a scan in the same vein as you did here. I can say look at his reflexes. It's awful debating. I enjoy exposing your hypocrisy though. Good times.
You want to say that superman goes down against magic, start another thread. Not being able to react to a speedblitz=/=going down for count. Superman was unable to react to zoom and he wasn't down for count.
As for thor's vaunted reflexes
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Which two panels?Because it looks like in the first panel - the one where he's depicted quite small - he's holding Stormbreaker with a single hand, though because of the size, it could be argued.
In the second one, Bill is holding his hammer with two hands across the handle.
And in the third panel we see him, he has Stormbreaker in his right hand only.
So I'm really not seeing where he's holding it the exact same...?
Originally posted by quanchi112
I'm saying magic and speed put both characters at a disadvantage but not one for an automatic loss. Thor overcomes speed and quite often. Superman has overcome certain mages and needed aid against other ones. I mean I can show Superman getting tagged with a scan in the same vein as you did here. I can say look at his reflexes. It's awful debating. I enjoy exposing your hypocrisy though. Good times.
Originally posted by red sabre
i will ask the question differently, was thor ever speedblitzed? the answer is no and thread is closed thank you
Depends on your definition of speedblitz.
For some, it's as simple as moving very fast in a charging motion and attacking. For others it's moving in a very erratic matter throwing continuous attacks until the target is "combo to KO'd". And for others, it's like something from Dragonball Z.