Originally posted by Nihilst
Majestic beat ............ ammmm .... a huge blue alien and that should be enough for you haaa
Right, the "Who has he beaten" argument.
Who did Dr. Manhattan beat in WATCHMEN?
There were no Thanos or Magus type characters depicted there. So using your rationale Dr.Manhattan gets beaten because of his lack of competition rather than his powerset.
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
You could drop TONS which require Stormbreaker and tech.Stormbreaker will be punted out of his hands before he can react.
His tech programs get rewritten by Majestros.
How would Majestic overwrite Bill, and by extension, the Asgardian enchantment bestowed upon him by Odin? If it was standard Korbonite Bill, I might be inclined to agree that Majestic could possibly rewrite him (though not something remotely close to anything likely concerning a forum fight imo).
Not sure where you get the idea that Majestic could easily disarm Stormbreaker and keep it away from Bill - who can easily recall his hammer if disarmed - and somehow effortlessly truck him.
So, again, what fights of Majestic justify him "annihilating" Bill?
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
How would Majestic overwrite Bill, and by extension, the Asgardian enchantment bestowed upon him by Odin? If it was standard Korbonite Bill, I might be inclined to agree that Majestic could possibly rewrite him (though not something remotely close to anything likely concerning a forum fight imo).Not sure where you get the idea that Majestic could easily disarm Stormbreaker and keep it away from Bill - who can easily recall his hammer if disarmed - and somehow effortlessly truck him.
So, again, what fights of Majestic justify him "annihilating" Bill?
Majestros skillset justify him annihilating Bill.
I think the Metropolis fights; in particular the ones with the Eradicator work here.
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Majestros skillset justify him annihilating Bill.I think the Metropolis fights; in particular the ones with the Eradicator work here.
Not...really? He can pull a possible slight majority if you want to argue it, sure. Anything more than that is pushing it.
His fight with Eradicator is impressive, sure, but that doesn't mean he could perform the same tactics on Bill, especially since Stormbreaker can negate a great deal of Majestic's offensive capabilities.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Not...really? He can pull a possible slight majority if you want to argue it, sure. Anything more than that is pushing it.His fight with Eradicator is impressive, sure, but that doesn't mean he could perform the same tactics on Bill, especially since Stormbreaker can negate a great deal of Majestic's offensive capabilities.
Why wouldn't Majestros who is a master fighter not use his superior speed to knock Stormbreaker out of Bill's hands?
Much of BRB's capabilities lie within Stormbreaker. Given the fact that robots can wield Stormbreaker some tech construct from Majestros could hold it at bay.
No Stormbreaker for Bill means no chance of victory.
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
From comics.Majestic is FASTER than Beta Ray Bill. CANON.
Majestic can channel cosmic energy. CANON.
Majestic is STRONGER than Beta Ray Bill. CANON.
Majestic can alter Beta Ray Bill's tech enhancements. CANON.
What have you actually read concerning Majestros?
Is Bill back to being a cyborg? I thought that he was made organic after his semi-death at the end of Storm Breaker?
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Why wouldn't Majestros who is a master fighter not use his superior speed to knock Stormbreaker out of Bill's hands?Much of BRB's capabilities lie within Stormbreaker. Given the fact that robots can wield Stormbreaker some tech construct from Majestros could hold it at bay.
No Stormbreaker for Bill means no chance of victory.
He could attempt this, sure, but he's also contending with Bill not just standing there letting it happen. If and when Majestic somehow does disarm him, Stormbreaker returns to its master's hand.
Some tech construct? Like...what? What does Majestic have on hand that would be able to hold Stormbreaker at bay long enough for Majestic to utterly annihilate Bill, who will be forcing the hammer to come back to him?
The odds of Majestic permanently disarming Bill for the fight are vastly inferior to that of Bill getting it back through willing and actually fighting back.
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Right, the "Who has he beaten" argument.Who did Dr. Manhattan beat in WATCHMEN?
There were no Thanos or Magus type characters depicted there. So using your rationale Dr.Manhattan gets beaten because of his lack of competition rather than his powerset.
of course i am using the who can he beat argument other wise how can we judge how good he is in fights? Lol could you say something even funnier? its like saying "Right, the "i go by comics feats" argument again.
its different with Dr Manhattan because he got feats to prove he is a reality warping being that is far above those 2, but the powers majestic has are nothing special to bill or thor its actually preety much the same level of power if we exclude the fact bill is more versatile than majestic, so in order for you to prove he can beat bill in a fight you have to use actual fighting feats which majestic doesnt have to put him over bill, nor does he got the feats to put him over bill, therefor an argument for majestic being able to beat bill is something you will haveto work forand not just state crap like he is stronger faster and smarter 😆
Originally posted by Nihilst
of course i am using the who can he beat argument other wise how can we judge how good he is in fights? Lol could you say something even funnier? its like saying "Right, the "i go by comics feats" argument again.its different with Dr Manhattan because he got feats to prove he is a reality warping being that is far above those 2, but the powers majestic has are nothing special to bill or thor its actually preety much the same level of power if we exclude the fact bill is more versatile than majestic, so in order for you to prove he can beat bill in a fight you have to use actual fighting feats which majestic doesnt have to put him over bill, nor does he got the feats to put him over bill, therefor an argument for majestic being able to beat bill is something you will haveto work forand not just state crap like he is stronger faster and smarter 😆
The laughing smiley doesn't bolster your argument.
1. Powers- It is not simply the "Powers" that Majestros posesses but the scale and application thereof. He is faster and stronger than Bill. That is CANON. If Majestros can reach Pluto in 2.5 hrs from Earth that is beyond anything Bill has done speed-wise. That was while LIFTING a space prison and not pushing himself to the max.
Do the math, Thanosi. Majestros has to be traveling at least the speed of light coupled with lifting a space prison unaided for the entireity of the way.
2. Combat- I gave you the fights with the Eradicator. Superman level speed, strength, resistance etc. Coupled with at least comprable tech to BRB. He rewrote the tech and beat him in a few panels.
THERE is your fight!
Originally posted by LordofBrooklynOr because even only factoring in Dr M's feats, he's below Silver Surfer by a sizable amount
Right, the "Who has he beaten" argument.Who did Dr. Manhattan beat in WATCHMEN?
There were no Thanos or Magus type characters depicted there. So using your rationale Dr.Manhattan gets beaten because of his lack of competition rather than his powerset.
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn The laughing smiley doesn't bolster your argument. 1. Powers- It is not simply the "Powers" that Majestros posesses but the scale and application thereof. He is faster and stronger than Bill. That is CANON. If Majestros can reach Pluto in 2.5 hrs from Earth that is beyond anything Bill has done speed-wise. That was while LIFTING a space prison and not pushing himself to the max. Do the math, Thanosi. Majestros has to be traveling at least the speed of light coupled with lifting a space prison unaided for the entireity of the way. 2. Combat- I gave you the fights with the Eradicator. Superman level speed, strength, resistance etc. Coupled with at least comprable tech to BRB. He rewrote the tech and beat him in a few panels. THERE is your fight!
do you have the scans of the eradicator incident?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Every once in a while, some idiot starts wanking Majestic. At this point, it's like a tradition or something.Anyways, close fight. Could go either way. I'd personally pick Bill on a good day.
When you find that idiot you should call him out. In the meantime, I will continue to post arguments that fit with the character's portrayals.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Every once in a while, some idiot (Read: LordofBrooklyn) starts wanking Majestic. At this point, it's like a tradition or something.Anyways, close fight. Could go either way. I'd personally pick Bill on a good day.
Edit: You actually think Majestic annihilates Bill? Lawlz, and you have the audacity to ask Jake whether or not he knows anything about Majestic.
I've probably read every notable fight and feat his done at this point (Read the Wildstorm Universe until I was up to date recently), and this far from a slaughter. To think otherwise, ignorance of both characters is like a prerequisite.