Will pedophilia be rebranded as "intergenerational intimacy"?

None of those things are mutually exclusive.

Originally posted by dadudemon
The problem is not whether or not a person can impregnate or be impregnated. The path you're taking is a slippery-slope path: cripples shouldn't have sex, eunichs shouldn't have sex, sterile people shouldn't have sex, some dwarves and little people shouldn't, and so forth.

Originally posted by King Kandy
In ancient Greece, homosexuality was considered normal in noble circles. In the 1950s, it was considered a mental disorder. Therefore, I would say your "we are constantly getting more tolerant of sexualities; its a slippery slope" may not in fact be a historically real trend.

Originally posted by inimalist
can you elaborate on your point? you are saying despite their current, historical and consistently stated position on CSA, the APA actually promotes pedophilia, though they did everything in their power to distance themselves from Rind et al's paper and provided ample opportunity for people to critisize it within their journals?

despite never making a statement even remotely similar to those of Rind et al's, and in fact criticizing their findings, motivations and methodologies, the APA actually support Rind et al's position?

It is sort of unclear and I am ever so slow sometimes... is that actually what you are saying?

Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
I guarantee they will endorse pedophilia as normal and healthy within a few generations

I'll take that bet

And on that day that they do, a legion of conservatives, abortion bombers, white supremacists, jew and gay haters, football coaches, and catholic priests will finally be free to go about their bidness.

Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
Greek society was morally degenerate.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Degenerated from what? And anyway, that is hardly my point; you act like "well, traditionally, homosexuality is not tolerated; that is, until those liberals interfered and made it commonplace". My point is that, no, there was no "historic tradition of heterosexuality" opposed to modern styles; acceptance of homosexuality has waxed and waned in a variety of cultures in a variety of times.

Degenerated from what? And anyway, that is hardly my point; you act like "well, traditionally, homosexuality is not tolerated; that is, until those liberals interfered and made it commonplace". My point is that, no, there was no "historic tradition of heterosexuality" opposed to modern styles; acceptance of homosexuality has waxed and waned in a variety of cultures in a variety of times.

Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
Yes, all in failed cultures of decadence and hedonism.

Actually no, I'm quite sure you don't realize that.

Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
Yes, all in failed cultures of decadence and hedonism.

Originally posted by King Kandy
But 1950s America is also a failed, bygone culture.

Other than the lingering racism and sexism, it was literally the most successful decade in America's history (or in the history of the world as far as scientific, economic, and "happiness index" progression is concerned). It was the exact opposite of a failure. It is bygone culture, for sure.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Other than the lingering racism and sexism, it was literally the most successful decade in America's history (or in the history of the world as far as scientific, economic, and "happiness index" progression is concerned). It was the exact opposite of a failure. It is bygone culture, for sure.

Unless you want to reinstate the racism, sexism, culture of fear, and extensive poverty in an ideal society those would all make it failures. It didn't work and society moved on as a result.

Economically and scientifically it was a boom time, to be sure (the polio vaccine alone changed everyone's lives for the better) but peaks in other areas don't mean that the culture around them is also doing well.

Originally posted by King Kandy
But 1950s America is also a failed, bygone culture.

failed

bygone

You do realize that the popular perception of hedonism was more or less invented as a strawman by the opponents of the original movement, right?

Originally posted by dadudemon
Other than the lingering racism and sexism, it was literally the most successful decade in America's history (or in the history of the world as far as scientific, economic, and "happiness index" progression is concerned). It was the exact opposite of a failure. It is bygone culture, for sure.

Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
Hahaha.

Only because of people like you.

Older men ****ing younger boys: not hedonism in the progressive world.

Now obviously some hedonists were pederasts, but not all of them.

When the entire society is filled with pederasts, I think it's safe to say the society is hedonistic.

Originally posted by King Kandy
If the measure of success is their ability to stick around...

That's only one measure.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Economically and scientifically it was a boom time, to be sure (the polio vaccine alone changed everyone's lives for the better) but peaks in other areas don't mean that the culture around them is also doing well.

This is closer to my point and addresses why I think it was such a successful decade. Many more things occurred in the 50s that make it awesome...and it laid the most groundwork for the biggest positive social changes in America (the 60s).

The '60s gave rise to the liberal Boomers who have consistently voted to shit up America ever since they were born. The '60s were a decade that can go **** itself.

Originally posted by King Kandy
In ancient Greece, homosexuality was considered normal in noble circles. In the 1950s, it was considered a mental disorder. Therefore, I would say your "we are constantly getting more tolerant of sexualities; its a slippery slope" may not in fact be a historically real trend.

Wasn't pedophilia also considered normal in noble circles however?

Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
hedonistic

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.