Originally posted by newnewguy
how about BFR them to the heart of the Sun? will that work?
Thor can teleport stuff too. so it will be a close one. I personally think magik is a faster teleporter (thought based) vs thor (swinging the hammer. and it's her main power and has displayed so many feats with it. its so refined like taking guns out of a soldier hand and redirecting lasers and bullest with it and teleportng energy, massive objects etc and putting it right on top of an opponent. she can teleport stuff from another dimension actually w/o being on the battle field.. it is totally in character. (it's like flash speed blitzing as opposed to the martian blitzing w/c is not as regular) I think x-man's tp and tk can prevent thor from doing this action and keep him occupied.
wanda is another problem. I am not sure how fast she can fire off a hex and i dont know if the soul sword can dispel it. the hexes might be a mutant based power and not magic. the sword can also hurt the two biggest threats of the avengers. wanda is magiks biggest threat.
the hulk isn't that big a threat (in my opinion) since juggernaut is there and physical strength doesnt matter against teleportation plus he does not fly. everyone on the x-team sans scott can fly and simply stay out of his way while he goes up against jugs.
x-man's energy form is also another enigma. the only one who can possibly hurt him is thor (absorbing psionic energy through the hammer w/c is debatable) and wanda. while danger might only get beat by hacking from ironman and vision( which is debatable as well) since wont get beat by physical force since she reforms after being destroyed. it really can go both ways...
Originally posted by newnewguy
I know thor can survive for a while in the sun but how about hulk or red hulk how long can they last in there before their healing factor be taxed?
Thor can survive but when he makes it back to earth all the others will be gone. hulks problem is lack of flight. just like juggernaut. if thor bfrs jugs there no way he is returning. well i guess magik can bring him back. there is also the limbo angle were magik can do almost anything.
actually if i were the x-men id teleport everyone else except thor then gang up on him after the others are gone. so he cant teleport them back. not also sure if he needs to see the target to teleport it. it seems magik does not need line of sight to teleport multiple objects at the same time. she teleports a ton of people scattered all over the battle field and leaves others on it facing the other direction. she teleported all the civlians out of the battle field while leaving the e-team on it and she can teleport people from another dimension just using magic to lock in on them where ever they are on earth.
I am also not sure where classic wanda ends and uber powerful hom wanda begins. Is classic wanda limited to hexes like her old days or is it already infused with magic like the busiek perez area. she becomes pretty uber when she got insane. after busiek run if i remember corectly. could be worng...
Originally posted by newnewguy
what I was asking is what if Magik BFR all of them to the sun(including thor) and thor had to teleport them back, how many of them can make it back alive? knowing thor could take at most 10 seconds to bring them back
id guess the safe answer would be thor and hulk. not sure if classic hulk could breath in space or not. maybe vision could turn intangible (not sure if he has the reaction time to turn intangible when they pop right in the sun though) not sure about his healing factor too..good question.
Originally posted by newnewguy
Cyclops optic blast did some damage... wasn´t he burned almost to a skeleton before? it was heat based. anyways nothing on this earth can compared to the heart of the sun heat...
Cyclops optic blast is more then heat base and during that entire fight, his healing factor was getting tampered with. Human Torch went Nova on Hulk and Storm assisted Torch and added her unleashed lightning to the attack and Hulk stood there and withstood it until they fatigued themselves out. Again, heat does nothing to the Hulk.
Originally posted by newnewguy
Carver seems you don´t know much about hulk do you? Hulk skin is not as durable as thor or superman skin.if this guy did that to hulk, what do you think the heart of the sun will do to him?
Unless Thor uses Mjolnir in some way, he definitely wouldn't have done it better.
Originally posted by newnewguy
Carver seems you don´t know much about hulk do you? Hulk skin is not as durable as thor or superman skin.if this guy did that to hulk, what do you think the heart of the sun will do to him?
Isn't that Vector? Do you not know what his powers are? Like I said, heat does nothing to the Hulk.
Originally posted by carver9
Cyclops optic blast is more then heat base and during that entire fight, his healing factor was getting tampered with. Human Torch went Nova on Hulk and Storm assisted Torch and added her unleashed lightning to the attack and Hulk stood there and withstood it until they fatigued themselves out. Again, heat does nothing to the Hulk.
Cyclops' blast isn't heat-based at all.
If any heat is created during the blast, it's due to friction, not any inherent part of the energy he fires.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Cyclops' blast isn't heat-based at all..
At one time Marvell classified the Optic Blasts of Cyclops, at full power, wide open, as being
"able to pulverize Adamantium". And, his "pencil beam" was the first thing that cause physical harm to the Blob on panel I believe, by boring a hole through his shoulder.
I liked the scans of Vector flaying the Hulk.
On paper, the Ufoes were very, very bada$$. Unfortunately, they were used and abused by Marvel writers.
But, their powers are no joke.
Side note, if they are going to keep Rulk around, I think he should get a real uniform. Or, at least some big work boots.
Originally posted by carver9
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Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/File:Cyclops.jpg
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Originally posted by Colossus-Big CWhats the point of this link?
http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/File:Cyclops.jpg
