Entropy Aegis Steel vs. The Void

Originally posted by quanchi112
I don't care what you classify it as. You don't like it so you say jobbing which doesn't change it. Void beat him at his own game. That's impressive.

Um no, whether you care or not isn't relevant. Neither is what i liked or disliked that occurred on panel. He jobbed plain and simple. Sentry/Void enthusiasts cry foul whenever incidents of his mental capacity impaired him from scoring a win, why cant the same be used here? Especially since Owen has displayed being adept at matter manipulation in the past, whereas Bob, a newbie who just discovered the ability conveniently overcame him. The whole incident was plot induced. And it wasnt even "Void" who beat him, it was Sentry.

Now we can argue feat feats with (MM incident being his highest) But id wager deranged depowered Owen is < a sentient amped Doomsday anyday. Or we can argue hyberbole, with one stated to be the fundamental force of imperiex powered by entropy against your ummm million exploding suns. But i wont argue semantics with you...its childish

But that's neither here nor there. We aren't discussing Molecule Man or Doomsday we are discussing Void and Steel (in Entropy Aegis armor). The only beings capable of harming the Aegis were skyfather level. Void was harmed by considerably less (an ambiguous norn empowered Avengers amp, Thors lightning, helicarrier, etc).

still void

Entropy Aegis.

Originally posted by guy222
still void

humor an old gal....care to explain luv

Originally posted by Sin I AM
And it wasnt even "Void" who beat him, it was Sentry.

I agree though that MM being mentally intact should take him, it was even hinted in taht story that he wanted to loose.

Originally posted by quanchi112
MM.

Well I can argue that it's not in Void's character to operate like MM when he isn't getting the MM treatment on him. For example, when Void fought others (like Thor) he didn't even attempt to do MM type powers (or create a werewolf lol).

In this fight I see the Aegis bashing Void like Thor did.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
That's very arguable.

I agree though that MM being mentally intact should take him, it was even hinted in taht story that he wanted to loose.

exactly, the avatars he created (his subconscios) stated he WANTED to lose...which is the same argument every VOID fanboy uses in the Siege arc,

The idea is Void wanted absolute destruction but Sentry wanted peace.

MM wanted peace as well he just wanted to be left alone. He captured the Dark Avengers in seperate realities whilst talking to Osborn. Sentry evolved and took advantage. Defeating the almighty powerful Molecule Man in fast Will combat and turned him into mush. Controversial indeed but he did it due to his extreme powersource.

Sentry proved to be a molecular manipulator on the highest level that day.
Void was always aware of Roberts potential because he is his subconcious. Therefore automatically obtaining that power to a degree. That's the beauty of Void. We don't know the exact power he has in regards to Sentry but he definitely represents his dormant fears/extreme potential.

I don't know jack crap about Aegis Steel. But I know Sentry. What are his feats?

The simple truth is as in the earliest days of my arguing of the character was the simple fact that does he want to die?
In a forum setting Sentry does not want to die. Because in a forum setting all combatants NEED to win.
If Void receives enough damage to return to the Sentry persona, and Sentry does not want to die. Void returns at full force. Partically manipulating everything in his path instantly.
Characters like Thor and classic Dr Strange can withstand such passive attacks due to natural resistances. But a machine like Steel won't have such resistances......maybe. Unless he is a superier particle manipulator. And I don't know if he is unfortunately.

But all I know is if Sentry does not wish to lose, Void is practically indestructible.
It's won me plenty of battles since it happened and if Steel can overcome it I'll be impressed.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
exactly, the avatars he created (his subconscios) stated he WANTED to lose...which is the same argument every VOID fanboy uses in the Siege arc,

Isn't that the same argument Hulk fans use with Stark's satellites?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Isn't that the same argument Hulk fans use with Stark's satellites?

Oh SNAP!

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Um no, whether you care or not isn't relevant. Neither is what i liked or disliked that occurred on panel. He jobbed plain and simple. Sentry/Void enthusiasts cry foul whenever incidents of his mental capacity impaired him from scoring a win, why cant the same be used here? Especially since Owen has displayed being adept at matter manipulation in the past, whereas Bob, a newbie who just discovered the ability conveniently overcame him. The whole incident was plot induced. And it wasnt even "Void" who beat him, it was Sentry.

Now we can argue feat feats with (MM incident being his highest) But id wager deranged depowered Owen is < a sentient amped Doomsday anyday. Or we can argue hyberbole, with one stated to be the fundamental force of imperiex powered by entropy against your ummm million exploding suns. But i wont argue semantics with you...its childish

But that's neither here nor there. We aren't discussing Molecule Man or Doomsday we are discussing Void and Steel (in Entropy Aegis armor). The only beings capable of harming the Aegis were skyfather level. Void was harmed by considerably less (an ambiguous norn empowered Avengers amp, Thors lightning, helicarrier, etc).

If you want to ignore the context of Bob wanting to be killed fine by me. You seem to pick and choose what counts and what doesn't count.

Originally posted by h1a8
Well I can argue that it's not in Void's character to operate like MM when he isn't getting the MM treatment on him. For example, when Void fought others (like Thor) he didn't even attempt to do MM type powers (or create a werewolf lol).

In this fight I see the Aegis bashing Void like Thor did.

EA wins.

It can rend space/time. It can channel entropy. It can absorb, and nullify, "all" types of energy.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
humor an old gal....care to explain luv

would u settle for a kiss on the cheek 🙂

Reported for cyber-sexing. uhuh

Originally posted by quanchi112
Your opinion doesn't trump what happened in the comics.

my opinion is based of what happened in comics.

Originally posted by quanchi112
If you want to ignore the context of Bob wanting to be killed fine by me. You seem to pick and choose what counts and what doesn't count.

Im not ignoring context i never stated that he did not want to be killed. I stated that if thats the case then u also have to take into account that Owen WANTED to lose as well. Which u seem to discard

Originally posted by Galan007
Reported for cyber-sexing. uhuh

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Originally posted by Sin I AM
my opinion is based of what happened in comics.

Im not ignoring context i never stated that he did not want to be killed. I stated that if thats the case then u also have to take into account that Owen WANTED to lose as well. Which u seem to discard

Owen wanted to kill him. He couldn't. Bob overpowered him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, it isn't you want to say he jobbed which is entirely your own opinion on what you read that's it. Owen's powers failed against Bob. That's it.

Owen wanted to kill him. He couldn't. Bob overpowered him.

Um sadly sir you are again mistaken. maybe you were reading a different comic. Dark Avengers #2 is what you need to pick up to be exact, a depowered Owen pawned Bob THREE times, and only after he was distracted did he "beat him at his own game" after exhibiting powers he never knew he had before ( even u must admit thats plot induced) plus the entire fight he admitted he wanted to lose (thru his subconscious avatars speech).

Context is everything my friend.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Um sadly sir you are again mistaken. maybe you were reading a different comic. Dark Avengers #2 is what you need to pick up to be exact, a depowered Owen pawned Bob THREE times, and only after he was distracted did he "beat him at his own game" after exhibiting powers he never knew he had before ( even u must admit thats plot induced) plus the entire fight he admitted he wanted to lose (thru his subconscious avatars speech).

Context is everything my friend.

Void definitely overpowered MM. He would have resisted or stop void from destroying him. Which he obviously couldn't. Its a great feat that people downplay because they don't like the sentry. I happened plan and simple.